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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Faiz Abbas <faiz_abbas@ti.com>,
	Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk>,
	"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@collabora.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hongjie Fang <hongjiefang@asrmicro.com>,
	Bastian Stender <bst@pengutronix.de>,
	Kyle Roeschley <kyle.roeschley@ni.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>,
	Harish Jenny K N <harish_kandiga@mentor.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms+renesas@verge.net.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: core: Remove timeout when enabling cache
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:23:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181120102300.GA1056@kunai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpedP1f4XZYvebFCuooYrBa2ux9F9mYRNi1Q=M-5eJ0Rg@mail.gmail.com>

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> >> That also happens to be one of the cards we deploy; However i did
> >> wonder about adding a quirk but decided against it as it was not clear
> >> to me from the specification that CACHE ON really is meant to complete
> >> within GENERIC_CMD6_TIMEOUT. That and i fret about ending up in hit-a-
> >> mole games as the failure is really quite tedious (boot failure).
> >
> > I agree that we should use the more defensive variant as a default. I
> > mean there should be no performance regression since most cards will
> > respond just faster, or? The only downside I could see is that we might
> > miss a real timeout with no bounds set and might get stuck?
> 
> Well, you have a point, but still it's kind of nice to know which
> cards are behaving well and which ones that doesn't. Hence I think I
> prefer to stick using a quirk, unless you have a strong opinion.

No strong opinion. Especially not if you say it is in the spec (although
"must be sufficient" would be better than "should be" ;)). Also, I
assume this failure is reproducible and should turn up during
development? Compared to "happens once in a while randomly"?

Yet, if we add a quirk for that, then we should probably mention it in
an error message when we hit -ETIMEDOUT for cache on ("does your card
need this quirk?")? It can be pretty time consuming to track this down
otherwise, I'd think.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-20 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-06 13:30 [PATCH] mmc: core: Remove timeout when enabling cache Sjoerd Simons
2018-11-06 14:04 ` Faiz Abbas
2018-11-06 15:01   ` Sjoerd Simons
2018-11-07  8:47     ` Wolfram Sang
2018-11-20  9:24       ` Ulf Hansson
2018-11-20 10:09         ` Faiz Abbas
2018-11-20 10:23         ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2018-11-20 10:39           ` Faiz Abbas
2018-11-20 10:58             ` Wolfram Sang
2018-11-20 11:38           ` Sjoerd Simons
2018-11-20 13:08             ` Ulf Hansson
2018-11-20 14:00               ` Sjoerd Simons
2018-11-20 14:24                 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-11-20 14:55                   ` Sjoerd Simons
2018-11-20 22:26                     ` Ulf Hansson

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