From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: only use ERMS for user copies for larger sizes
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:36:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181121063609.GA109082@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02bfc577-32a5-66be-64bf-d476b7d447d2@kernel.dk>
[ Cc:-ed a few other gents and lkml. ]
* Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So this is a fun one... While I was doing the aio polled work, I noticed
> that the submitting process spent a substantial amount of time copying
> data to/from userspace. For aio, that's iocb and io_event, which are 64
> and 32 bytes respectively. Looking closer at this, and it seems that
> ERMS rep movsb is SLOWER for smaller copies, due to a higher startup
> cost.
>
> I came up with this hack to test it out, and low and behold, we now cut
> the time spent in copying in half. 50% less.
>
> Since these kinds of patches tend to lend themselves to bike shedding, I
> also ran a string of kernel compilations out of RAM. Results are as
> follows:
>
> Patched : 62.86s avg, stddev 0.65s
> Stock : 63.73s avg, stddev 0.67s
>
> which would also seem to indicate that we're faster punting smaller
> (< 128 byte) copies.
>
> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v4 @ 2.20GHz
>
> Interestingly, text size is smaller with the patch as well?!
>
> I'm sure there are smarter ways to do this, but results look fairly
> conclusive. FWIW, the behaviorial change was introduced by:
>
> commit 954e482bde20b0e208fd4d34ef26e10afd194600
> Author: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> Date: Thu May 24 18:19:45 2012 -0700
>
> x86/copy_user_generic: Optimize copy_user_generic with CPU erms feature
>
> which contains nothing in terms of benchmarking or results, just claims
> that the new hotness is better.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
> ---
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h
> index a9d637bc301d..7dbb78827e64 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h
> @@ -29,16 +29,27 @@ copy_user_generic(void *to, const void *from, unsigned len)
> {
> unsigned ret;
>
> + /*
> + * For smaller copies, don't use ERMS as it's slower.
> + */
> + if (len < 128) {
> + alternative_call(copy_user_generic_unrolled,
> + copy_user_generic_string, X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD,
> + ASM_OUTPUT2("=a" (ret), "=D" (to), "=S" (from),
> + "=d" (len)),
> + "1" (to), "2" (from), "3" (len)
> + : "memory", "rcx", "r8", "r9", "r10", "r11");
> + return ret;
> + }
> +
> /*
> * If CPU has ERMS feature, use copy_user_enhanced_fast_string.
> * Otherwise, if CPU has rep_good feature, use copy_user_generic_string.
> * Otherwise, use copy_user_generic_unrolled.
> */
> alternative_call_2(copy_user_generic_unrolled,
> - copy_user_generic_string,
> - X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD,
> - copy_user_enhanced_fast_string,
> - X86_FEATURE_ERMS,
> + copy_user_generic_string, X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD,
> + copy_user_enhanced_fast_string, X86_FEATURE_ERMS,
> ASM_OUTPUT2("=a" (ret), "=D" (to), "=S" (from),
> "=d" (len)),
> "1" (to), "2" (from), "3" (len)
So I'm inclined to do something like yours, because clearly the changelog
of 954e482bde20 was at least partly false: Intel can say whatever they
want, it's a fact that ERMS has high setup costs for low buffer sizes -
ERMS is optimized for large size, cache-aligned copies mainly.
But the result is counter-intuitive in terms of kernel text footprint,
plus the '128' is pretty arbitrary - we should at least try to come up
with a break-even point where manual copy is about as fast as ERMS - on
at least a single CPU ...
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-21 6:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2018-11-20 20:24 ` [PATCH] x86: only use ERMS for user copies for larger sizes Jens Axboe
2018-11-21 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-11-21 13:32 ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-21 13:44 ` Denys Vlasenko
2018-11-22 17:36 ` David Laight
2018-11-22 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-22 18:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-22 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-23 9:34 ` David Laight
2018-11-23 10:12 ` David Laight
2018-11-23 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-23 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-23 18:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-23 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-23 19:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 10:12 ` David Laight
2018-11-26 10:01 ` David Laight
2018-11-26 10:26 ` David Laight
2019-01-05 2:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-07 9:55 ` David Laight
2019-01-07 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-08 9:10 ` David Laight
2019-01-08 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 13:45 ` Paolo Abeni
2018-11-21 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 18:04 ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-21 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-21 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 22:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-21 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-22 10:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22 11:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22 11:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-23 16:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-22 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-22 17:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-22 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-24 6:09 ` Jens Axboe
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