From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] atomic_fetch_andnot() in nohz_idle_balance()
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:59:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181127105950.GA5398@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBjA-oCBRkO6__npQwL3+HLjzk7riCcPU1R7YdO-EpuZg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:01:24AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 21:44, Andrea Parri
> <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:37:00PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 10:30, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:34:53PM +0100, Andrea Parri wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > The comment for the atomic_fetch_andnot() in nohz_idle_balance() says:
> > > > >
> > > > > "barrier, pairs with nohz_balance_enter_idle(), ensures ..."
> > > > >
> > > > > which, well, does sound a note of warning... ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I see that nohz_balance_enter_idle() has an smp_mb__after_atomic() but
> > > > > the comment for the latter suggests that this barrier is pairing with
> > > > > the smp_mb() in _nohz_idle_balance().
> > > > >
> > > > > So, what is the intended pairing barrier for the atomic_fetch_andnot()?
> > > > > what (which memory accesses) do you want "to order" here?
> > > >
> > > > I can't seem to make sense of that comment either; the best I can come
> > > > up with is that it would order the prior NOHZ_KICK_MASK load vs us then
> > > > changing it.
> > > >
> > > > But that would order against kick_ilb(), not enter_idle.
> > > >
> > > > Vincent?
> > >
> > > I can't come with a good explanation.
> > > After looking into my email archive, the only explanation that i have
> > > is that the comments remains from a previous iteration of the feature
> > > that was based on a nohz.stats_state mechanism
> >
> > I'm afraid I still can't help your comment... put in other terms, would
> > you feel "unconfortable" with _relax()ing the andnot()? (and if so ...)
>
> so I think that the comment is useless and can be removed because it
> was referring to a line code above the comment that was present in a
> previous iteration of the patchset. This line disappeared in final
> version but the comment has stayed.
>
> If your question is: can we use atomic_fetch_andnot_relaxed() instead
> of atomic_fetch_andnot() in nohz_idle_balance() ?
> I think that it's possible
Ah!, thank you for the clarification. Just sent a clean-up patch for
the comment (but deferring for the _relaxed() change...).
Andrea
>
> >
> > Andrea
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-27 11:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-21 22:34 [Question] atomic_fetch_andnot() in nohz_idle_balance() Andrea Parri
2018-11-26 9:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 11:37 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-11-26 20:44 ` Andrea Parri
2018-11-27 9:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-11-27 10:59 ` Andrea Parri [this message]
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