From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>,
ldv@altlinux.org, esyr@redhat.com,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] perf: Allow to block process in syscall tracepoints
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:19:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206131946.2c47f556@vmware.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181206083400.GA13675@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:34:00 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand this.. why are we using schedule_timeout() and all
> > that?
>
> Urgh.. in fact, the more I look at this the more I hate it.
>
> We want to block in __perf_output_begin(), but we cannot because both
> tracepoints and perf will have preemptability disabled down there.
>
> So what we do is fail the event, fake the lost count and go all the way
> up that callstack, detect the failure and then poll-wait and retry.
>
> And only do this for a few special events... *yuck*
Since this is a special case, we should add a new option to the perf
system call that, 1 states that it wants the traced process to block
(and must have PTRACE permission to do so) and 2, after it reads from
the buffer, it needs to check a bit that says "this process is blocked,
please wake it up" and then do another perf call to kick the process to
continue.
I really dislike the polling too. But because this is not a default
case, and is a new feature, we can add more infrastructure to make it
work properly, instead of trying to hack the current method into
something that does something poorly.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-06 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-05 16:05 [RFC 1/8] perf: Block perf calls for system call tracepoints Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 1/8] perf: Allow to block process in syscall tracepoints Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 17:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-05 17:56 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-06 8:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 10:30 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-06 8:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 8:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-06 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 10:31 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-06 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2018-12-07 8:44 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-07 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-07 13:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-07 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-07 15:49 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-12-08 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-08 17:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-07 20:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-08 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-08 17:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-10 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-13 0:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-12-13 1:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-13 1:49 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-12-13 10:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-13 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-13 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-13 11:29 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-06 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 10:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 2/8] perf tools: Sync uapi perf_event.h Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 3/8] perf record: Add --block option Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 4/8] perf trace: " Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 5/8] perf tools: Add block term support for tracepoints Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 6/8] perf tools: Add ordered_events__flush_time interface Jiri Olsa
2018-12-14 21:00 ` [tip:perf/core] perf ordered_events: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2018-12-18 14:27 ` tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 7/8] perf trace: Move event delivery to deliver_event function Jiri Olsa
2018-12-14 21:01 ` [tip:perf/core] perf trace: Move event delivery to a new deliver_event() function tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2018-12-18 14:28 ` tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2018-12-05 16:05 ` [PATCH 8/8] perf trace: Add ordered processing for --block option Jiri Olsa
2018-12-14 21:02 ` [tip:perf/core] perf trace: Add ordered processing tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2018-12-18 14:29 ` tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
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