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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
Cc: shuah <shuah@kernel.org>,
	perex@perex.cz, tiwai@suse.com, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v8 1/4] media: Media Device Allocator API
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 12:37:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181209113714.GA21784@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181209092715.50a7e4e4@coco.lan>

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Hi!

> > On Thu 2018-12-06 08:33:14, shuah wrote:
> > > On 11/19/18 1:59 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:  
> > > >On Thu 2018-11-01 18:31:30, shuah@kernel.org wrote:  
> > > >>From: Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
> > > >>
> > > >>Media Device Allocator API to allows multiple drivers share a media device.
> > > >>Using this API, drivers can allocate a media device with the shared struct
> > > >>device as the key. Once the media device is allocated by a driver, other
> > > >>drivers can get a reference to it. The media device is released when all
> > > >>the references are released.  
> > > >
> > > >Sounds like a ... bad idea?
> > > >
> > > >That's what new "media control" framework is for, no?
> > > >
> > > >Why do you need this?  
> > > 
> > > Media control framework doesn't address this problem of ownership of the
> > > media device when non-media drivers have to own the pipeline. In this case,
> > > snd-usb owns the audio pipeline when an audio application is using the
> > > device. Without this work, media drivers won't be able to tell if snd-usb is
> > > using the tuner and owns the media pipeline.
> > > 
> > > I am going to clarify this in the commit log.  
> > 
> > I guess I'll need the explanation, yes.
> > 
> > How can usb soundcard use the tuner? I thought we'd always have
> > userspace component active and moving data between tuner and usb sound
> > card?
> 
> It sounds that the description of the patch is not 100%, as it seems
> that you're not seeing the hole picture.
> 
> This is designed to solve a very common usecase for media devices
> where one physical device (an USB stick) provides both audio
> and video.

Aha, ok, it makes sense now. Thanks!
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-09 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-02  0:31 [RFC PATCH v8 0/4] Media Device Allocator API shuah
     [not found] ` <cover.1541109584.git.shuah@kernel.org>
2018-11-02  0:31   ` [RFC PATCH v8 1/4] media: " shuah
2018-11-19  8:59     ` Pavel Machek
2018-12-06 15:33       ` shuah
2018-12-09  8:09         ` Pavel Machek
2018-12-09 11:27           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-12-09 11:37             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-11-20 11:20     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-12-06 15:27       ` shuah
2018-11-02  0:31   ` [RFC PATCH v8 2/4] media: change au0828 to use " shuah
2018-11-02  0:31   ` [RFC PATCH v8 3/4] media: media.h: Enable ALSA MEDIA_INTF_T* interface types shuah
2018-11-20 11:22     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-12-06 15:29       ` shuah
2018-11-02  0:31   ` [RFC PATCH v8 4/4] sound/usb: Use Media Controller API to share media resources shuah
2018-11-20 11:54     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-12-06 15:34       ` shuah

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