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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] printk: increase devkmsg write() ratelimit
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:47:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181218174723.GK7485@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181218165217.GA534@tigerII.localdomain>

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 01:52:17AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> But devkmsg ratelimits systemd errors, so one does not even know that
> "some debugging is required". For instance from my x86 box:
> 
>  Unmounting /home...
>  [..]
>  home.mount: Mount process exited, code=exited status=32
>  Failed unmounting /home.
> 
> I don't want to debug systemd, I want to know that something didn't
> work out. 10 messages max and 5 seconds interval looks a bit too strict.

So how much is not strict?

And what happens if you raise that ratelimiting level and the *one* line
which is most important for debugging an issue, still doesn't get logged
because all of a sudden, doofus is more talkative, overflows the new
limit and we drop the important line?

All I'm saying is, gradually raising the limit is the wrong approach
- there will always be a case where something important doesn't get
logged.

What we need is a different solution, maybe what Rostedt proposes or
so...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-18 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-18  9:18 [RFC][PATCH] printk: increase devkmsg write() ratelimit Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 11:17   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 11:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 13:09       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 11:47     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 13:07       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 14:26         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 14:55           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 15:03             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 15:14               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 15:24                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 16:52                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 17:21                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 17:37                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-19  8:50                         ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-20 11:35                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-20 13:58                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-21  7:32                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 17:47                     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2018-12-19  1:46                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 14:02 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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