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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Matwey V. Kornilov" <matwey@sai.msu.ru>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Matwey V. Kornilov" <matwey.kornilov@gmail.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	hdegoede@redhat.com, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	Mike Isely <isely@pobox.com>, Bhumika Goyal <bhumirks@gmail.com>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	keiichiw@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] media: usb: pwc: Don't use coherent DMA buffers for ISO transfer
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:13:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181221081359.GA14707@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5CsX-YJdwQUS+eEK6kj1xU94AiGHY0QX=QGnf67JcKyaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:23:46PM +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> I haven't been following the problems with virtually tagged cases,
> would you mind sharing some background, so that we can consider it
> when adding non-consistent allocations to VB2?

The problem exists at least partially with the current consistent
allocator, and we need to fix it.  My non-coherent series does not have
it, but we would add it if we allowed virtual remapping.

The problem with get_sgtable is that it creates aliasing of kernel
virtual addresses used to access memory and thus the cache.  We have
the mapping return from dma_alloc_*, which in case of a remap contains
a vmap/ioremap style address that is different from the kernel direct
mapping address you get from using page_address/kmap on the pages
backing that mapping.  (assuming you even have pages - in a few corner
cases we don't and the whole interface concept breaks down).

This creates various problems as the the scatterlist returned from
get_stable now gives a second way to access this memory through direct
mapping addresses in the pages contained in it, but as soon as we do
that we:

 a) don't use the nocache mapping used by the coherent allocator if that
    is on a per-mapping basis (which it is for many architectures), so
    you do get data in the cache even when that might not be assumed
 b) if the data returned from dma_alloc_coherent was not actually a
    remap but a special pool of non-cached address the cache flushing
    instructions might be invalid and caused problems
 c) any cache flushing now operates on just those direct mappings, which
    in case of the non-coherent allocator and access through the
    remapped address does the wrong thing for virtually tagged caches

      reply	other threads:[~2018-12-21  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-21 17:06 [PATCH v5 0/2] media: usb: pwc: Don't use coherent DMA buffers for ISO transfer Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-08-21 17:06 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] media: usb: pwc: Introduce TRACE_EVENTs for pwc_isoc_handler() Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-08-21 19:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-21 17:06 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] media: usb: pwc: Don't use coherent DMA buffers for ISO transfer Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-08-28  7:17   ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-09-11 18:58     ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-09-19 16:12       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-10-10 21:13       ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2018-10-30 22:00   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-31  5:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-07 15:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12  8:57       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-12  9:09         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12  9:34           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-12 13:54             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-13  3:13               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-13 14:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-14  3:12                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-14 12:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-18  7:22                       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-18  7:38                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-18  9:48                           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-19  7:51                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-19  8:18                               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-19 14:51                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-20  3:23                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-21  8:13                                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]

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