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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kcov: convert kcov.refcount to refcount_t
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:18:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190121131816.GC17749@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+a6-YyrwZ9qX+yhhMuoPoZ5=B-NKxkn-EyFqijNBf4N+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:52:37AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:51 PM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:

> > KCOV uses refcounts in a very simple canonical way, so no hidden
> > ordering implied.
> >
> > Am I missing something or refcount_dec_and_test does not in fact
> > provide ACQUIRE ordering?
> >
> > +case 5) - decrement-based RMW ops that return a value
> > +-----------------------------------------------------
> > +
> > +Function changes:
> > +                atomic_dec_and_test() --> refcount_dec_and_test()
> > +                atomic_sub_and_test() --> refcount_sub_and_test()
> > +                no atomic counterpart --> refcount_dec_if_one()
> > +                atomic_add_unless(&var, -1, 1) --> refcount_dec_not_one(&var)
> > +
> > +Memory ordering guarantees changes:
> > +                fully ordered --> RELEASE ordering + control dependency
> >
> > I think that's against the expected refcount guarantees. When I
> > privatize an  atomic_dec_and_test I would expect that not only stores,
> > but also loads act on a quiescent object. But loads can hoist outside
> > of the control dependency.
> >
> > Consider the following example, is it the case that the BUG_ON can still fire?
> >
> > struct X {
> >   refcount_t rc; // == 2
> >   int done1, done2; // == 0
> > };
> >
> > // thread 1:
> > x->done1 = 1;
> > if (refcount_dec_and_test(&x->rc))
> >   BUG_ON(!x->done2);
> >
> > // thread 2:
> > x->done2 = 1;
> > if (refcount_dec_and_test(&x->rc))
> >   BUG_ON(!x->done1);

I'm the one responsible for that refcount_t ordering.

The rationale for REL+CTRL is that for the final put we want to ensure
all prior load/store are complete, because any later access could be a
UAF; consider:


P0()
{
	x->foo=0;
	if (refcount_dec_and_test(&x->rc))
		free(x);
}

P1()
{
	x->bar=1;
	if (refcount_dec_and_test(&->rc))
		free(x);
}


without release, if would be possible for either (foo,bar) store to
happen after the free().

Additionally we also need the CTRL to ensure that the actual free()
happens _after_ the dec_and_test, freeing early would be bad.

But after these two requirements, the basic refcounting works.

> The refcount_dec_and_test guarantees look too weak to me, see the
> example above. Shouldn't refcount_dec_and_test returning true give the
> object in fully quiescent state? Why only control dependency? Loads
> can hoist across control dependency, no?

Yes, loads can escape like you say.

Any additional ordering; like the one you have above; are not strictly
required for the proper functioning of the refcount. Rather, you rely on
additional ordering and will need to provide this explicitly:


	if (refcount_dec_and_text(&x->rc)) {
		/*
		 * Comment that explains what we order against....
		 */
		smp_mb__after_atomic();
		BUG_ON(!x->done*);
		free(x);
	}


Also; these patches explicitly mention that refcount_t is weaker,
specifically to make people aware of this difference.

A full smp_mb() (or two) would also be much more expensive on a number
of platforms and in the vast majority of the cases it is not required.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-21 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-16 10:27 [PATCH] kcov: convert kcov.refcount to refcount_t Elena Reshetova
2019-01-16 12:51 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-21  9:52   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-21 11:45     ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-21 12:29       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-21 14:44         ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-21 13:18     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-21 16:05       ` Alan Stern
2019-01-21 17:00         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-22  9:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 23:22           ` Kees Cook
2019-01-25  9:02             ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-01-25 10:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-27 18:41           ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-01-28  8:33             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-28  9:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 11:51 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-21 12:38 ` Mark Rutland
2019-01-21 12:42   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-21 14:07     ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-01-21 17:07       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-31 10:03     ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-01-31 10:06       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-31 10:09         ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-01-31 10:33           ` Dmitry Vyukov

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