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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"jgross@suse.com" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"bjorn.andersson@linaro.org" <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	"jliang@xilinx.com" <jliang@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC] virtio_ring: check dma_mem for xen_domain
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:34:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190124145849-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1901241110290.17936@sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260>

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:14:53AM -0800, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, Peng Fan wrote:
> > Hi stefano,
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stefano Stabellini [mailto:sstabellini@kernel.org]
> > > Sent: 2019年1月24日 7:44
> > > To: hch@infradead.org
> > > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>; Peng Fan
> > > <peng.fan@nxp.com>; mst@redhat.com; jasowang@redhat.com;
> > > xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org;
> > > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org;
> > > luto@kernel.org; jgross@suse.com; boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com;
> > > bjorn.andersson@linaro.org; jliang@xilinx.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC] virtio_ring: check dma_mem for xen_domain
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019, hch@infradead.org wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 01:04:33PM -0800, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > > > If vring_use_dma_api is actually supposed to return true when
> > > > > dma_dev->dma_mem is set, then both Peng's patch and the patch I
> > > > > wrote are not fixing the real issue here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know enough about remoteproc to know where the problem
> > > > > actually lies though.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is the following:
> > > >
> > > > Devices can declare a specific memory region that they want to use
> > > > when the driver calls dma_alloc_coherent for the device, this is done
> > > > using the shared-dma-pool DT attribute, which comes in two variants
> > > > that would be a little to much to explain here.
> > > >
> > > > remoteproc makes use of that because apparently the device can only
> > > > communicate using that region.  But it then feeds back memory obtained
> > > > with dma_alloc_coherent into the virtio code.  For that it calls
> > > > vmalloc_to_page on the dma_alloc_coherent, which is a huge no-go for
> > > > the ĐMA API and only worked accidentally on a few platform, and
> > > > apparently arm64 just changed a few internals that made it stop
> > > > working for remoteproc.
> > > >
> > > > The right answer is to not use the DMA API to allocate memory from a
> > > > device-speficic region, but to tie the driver directly into the DT
> > > > reserved memory API in a way that allows it to easilt obtain a struct
> > > > device for it.
> > > 
> > > If I understand correctly, Peng should be able to reproduce the problem on
> > > native Linux without any Xen involvement simply by forcing
> > > vring_use_dma_api to return true. Peng, can you confirm?
> > 
> > It is another issue without xen involvement, 
> > There is an thread talking this: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10742923/
> > 
> > Without xen, vring_use_dma_api will return false.
> > With xen, if vring_use_dma_api returns true, it will dma_map_xx and trigger dump.
> 
> It is true that for Xen on ARM DomUs it is not necessary today to return
> true from vring_use_dma_api. However, returning true from
> vring_use_dma_api should not break Linux. When the rpmesg issue is
> fixed, this problem should also go away without any need for additional
> changes on the xen side I think.

Let less systems bypass the standard virtio logic (using feature bit
to figure out bypassing DMA API), the better.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-24 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21  4:51 [RFC] virtio_ring: check dma_mem for xen_domain Peng Fan
2019-01-21  8:28 ` hch
2019-01-22  2:32   ` Peng Fan
2019-01-22  2:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-22 19:59 ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-23  2:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-23  7:12   ` hch
2019-01-23 21:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-23 21:14       ` hch
2019-01-23 23:43         ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-24  6:47           ` Peng Fan
2019-01-24 19:14             ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-24 20:34               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-01-25  9:45         ` Peng Fan
2019-01-25 19:18           ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-28  8:00           ` hch
2019-01-29  9:26             ` Peng Fan
2019-01-24  6:42   ` Peng Fan

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