From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] perf, bpf: Retain kernel executable code in memory to aid Intel PT tracing
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:02:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190207200211.GG32477@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190207111901.2399-1-adrian.hunter@intel.com>
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 01:19:01PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> Subject to memory pressure and other limits, retain executable code, such
> as JIT-compiled bpf, in memory instead of freeing it immediately it is no
> longer needed for execution.
>
> While perf is primarily aimed at statistical analysis, tools like Intel
> PT can aim to provide a trace of exactly what happened. As such, corner
> cases that can be overlooked statistically need to be addressed. For
> example, there is a gap where JIT-compiled bpf can be freed from memory
> before a tracer has a chance to read it out through the bpf syscall.
> While that can be ignored statistically, it contributes to a death by
> 1000 cuts for tracers attempting to assemble exactly what happened. This is
> a bit gratuitous given that retaining the executable code is relatively
> simple, and the amount of memory involved relatively small. The retained
> executable code is then available in memory images such as /proc/kcore.
>
> This facility could perhaps be extended also to init sections.
>
> Note that this patch is compile tested only and, at present, is missing
> the ability to retain symbols.
You don't need the symbols; you already have them through
PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL.
Also; afaict this patch guarantees exactly nothing. It registers a
shrinker which will (given enough memory pressure) happily free your
text before we get around to copying it out.
Did you read this proposal?
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190109101808.GG1900@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net
(also: s/KCORE_QC/KCORE_QS/ for quiescent state)
That would create an RCU like interface to /proc/kcore and give you the
guarantees you need, while also allowing the memory to get freed once
you've obtained a copy.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-07 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-07 11:19 [RFC PATCH] perf, bpf: Retain kernel executable code in memory to aid Intel PT tracing Adrian Hunter
2019-02-07 20:02 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-02-08 8:53 ` Adrian Hunter
2019-02-08 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-11 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-08 23:29 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-11 7:54 ` Adrian Hunter
2019-02-11 8:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-11 8:24 ` Adrian Hunter
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