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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com, brgerst@gmail.com,
	jpoimboe@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
	dvlasenk@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 12:46:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190221124629.GA12696@fuggles.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8e99706-4e3b-68ec-7a3e-6e6dd876ad2f@zytor.com>

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 02:55:59PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 2/19/19 4:48 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > 
> > I think you'll still hate this, but could we not disable preemption during
> > the uaccess-enabled region, re-enabling it on the fault path after we've
> > toggled uaccess off and disable it again when we return back to the
> > uaccess-enabled region? Doesn't help with tracing, but it should at least
> > handle the common case.
> > 
> 
> There is a worse problem with this, I still realize: this would mean blocking
> preemption across what could possibly be a *very* large copy_from_user(), for
> example.

I don't think it's legitimate to call copy_{to,from}_user() inside a
user_access_{begin,end} region. You'd need to add some unsafe variants,
which could periodically disable uaccess and call cond_resched() inside
the loop to avoid the problem you're eluding to.

For existing callers of copy_{to,from}_user(), there's no issue as they
don't call into the scheduler during the copy operation. Exceptions are
handled fine by the code in mainline today.

GCC plugins are a cool idea, but I'm just a bit nervous about relying on
them for things like this.

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-21 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-15 13:58 [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] arm64: uaccess: Cleanup get/put_user() Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement unsafe accessors Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Julien Thierry
2019-01-30 16:58   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-02-04 13:27     ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-11 13:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-11 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-12  9:15       ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13  8:21         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-13 10:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 10:50           ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 13:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 13:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:00               ` Will Deacon
2019-02-13 14:07                 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:24                   ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:39                   ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 18:54                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                         ` <D61C430D-4321-4114-AB85-671A3C7B8EAE@amacapital.net>
2019-02-13 22:21                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 22:49                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-14 10:14                               ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 16:18                                 ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-14 19:34                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 14:34                                     ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-15 17:18                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-15 17:40                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 18:28                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-15 23:34                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16  0:21                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-16 10:32                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16  4:06                                 ` hpa
2019-02-16 10:30                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 22:30                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19  0:24                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19  2:20                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-19  2:46                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19  9:07                                             ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-19  8:53                                         ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-19  9:15                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:19                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:04                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  9:21                                         ` hpa
2019-02-19  9:44                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 11:38                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-19 11:58                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 12:48                                         ` Will Deacon
2019-02-20 22:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-21 12:06                                             ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-21 21:35                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-21 22:08                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 12:58                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-22 22:26                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] objtool: STAC/CLAC validation Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:34                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  8:43                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:39                                                       ` hpa
2019-02-23  8:39                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25  8:47                                                           ` hpa
2019-02-25 13:21                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-01 15:07                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25  8:49                                                           ` hpa
2019-02-22 23:55                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  8:37                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-23 10:52                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 10:51                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 11:53                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 15:36                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25  8:33                                                       ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-25 11:55                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 12:46                                             ` Will Deacon [this message]
2019-02-21 22:06                                               ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-18  9:03                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 23:19                         ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Linus Torvalds
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement user_access_region_active Julien Thierry
2019-01-25 14:27 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Catalin Marinas
2019-01-30 16:17 ` Julien Thierry

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