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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk/console: Do not suppress information about dropped messages
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:44:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190227084438.GA14252@jagdpanzerIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fts9fy5n.fsf@linutronix.de>

On (02/27/19 09:12), John Ogness wrote:
> >> 
> >> My only objection to this is that the "messages dropped" only comes if a
> >> non-supressed message comes. So information about dropped information
> >> may never get printed unless some task prints something non-supressed.
> >> 
> >> Imagine a situation where I am expecting a message to come, but don't
> >> see it because it was dropped. But if no more non-supressed messages
> >> come, I see neither the expected message nor the dropped message.
> >
> > I think this is exactly the problem (and thus the patch) we discussed
> > some 3 years ago.
> 
> I guess you are referring to this [0] thread.

Right.

[..]
> I would agree with the proposed solution from 2016. My experience is
> that the dropped messages are very important. Yes, printing them could
> lead to the loss of even more messages.

Yes, printing out messages does take time. But I think it's easier to
start losing messages due to preemption under console_sem than due to
call_console_drivers() latencies.

> But still, it is important information that needs to get out.

I'd agree. A summary "you lost %d messages somewhere between current
and previous messages" is surely better than what we have now, but is
still a bit less informative than "you lost %d messages just now".

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-27  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-26 12:49 [PATCH] printk/console: Do not suppress information about dropped messages Petr Mladek
2019-02-26 16:26 ` John Ogness
2019-02-27  2:55   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-02-27  8:12     ` John Ogness
2019-02-27  8:44       ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2019-02-27  8:30   ` Petr Mladek
2019-02-27  8:54     ` John Ogness
2019-03-04  3:33     ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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