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From: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Limit sched_cfs_period_timer loop to avoid hard lockup
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:19:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190315161929.GH27131@pauld.bos.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190315155933.GY5996@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 04:59:33PM +0100 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 09:51:25AM -0400, Phil Auld wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 11:33:57AM +0100 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 11:11:50AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > index ea74d43924b2..b71557be6b42 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > @@ -4885,6 +4885,8 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart sched_cfs_slack_timer(struct hrtimer *timer)
> > > >  	return HRTIMER_NORESTART;
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +extern const u64 max_cfs_quota_period;
> > > > +
> > > >  static enum hrtimer_restart sched_cfs_period_timer(struct hrtimer *timer)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	struct cfs_bandwidth *cfs_b =
> > > > @@ -4892,6 +4894,7 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart sched_cfs_period_timer(struct hrtimer *timer)
> > > >  	unsigned long flags;
> > > >  	int overrun;
> > > >  	int idle = 0;
> > > > +	int count = 0;
> > > >  
> > > >  	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&cfs_b->lock, flags);
> > > >  	for (;;) {
> > > > @@ -4899,6 +4902,28 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart sched_cfs_period_timer(struct hrtimer *timer)
> > > >  		if (!overrun)
> > > >  			break;
> > > >  
> > > > +		if (++count > 3) {
> > > > +			u64 new, old = ktime_to_ns(cfs_b->period);
> > > > +
> > > > +			new = (old * 147) / 128; /* ~115% */
> > > > +			new = min(new, max_cfs_quota_period);
> > > 
> > > Also, we can still engineer things to come unstuck; if we explicitly
> > > configure period at 1e9 and then set a really small quota and then
> > > create this insane amount of cgroups you have..
> > > 
> > > this code has no room to manouvre left.
> > > 
> > > Do we want to do anything about that? Or leave it as is, don't do that
> > > then?
> > > 
> > 
> > If the period is 1s it would be hard to make this loop fire repeatedly. I don't think
> > it's that dependent on the quota other than getting some rqs throttled. The small quota
> > would also mean fewer of them would get unthrottled per distribute call. You'd probably
> > need _significantly_ more cgroups than my insane 2500 to hit it. 
> > 
> > Right now it settles out with a new period of ~12-15ms.  So ~200,000 cgroups?
> > 
> > Ben and I talked a little about this in another thread. I think hitting this is enough of 
> > an edge case that this approach will make the problem go away. The only alternative we 
> > came up with to reduce the time taken in unthrottle involved a fair bit of complexity 
> > added to the every day code paths.  And might not help if the children all had their
> > own quota/period settings active. 
> 
> Ah right. I forgot that part. And yes, I remember what was proposed to
> avoid the tree walk, that wouldn't have been pretty.

I'm glad I was not the only one who was not excited by that  :)



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  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-15 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-13 15:08 [PATCH] sched/fair: Limit sched_cfs_period_timer loop to avoid hard lockup Phil Auld
2019-03-15 10:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 10:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 13:51     ` Phil Auld
2019-03-15 15:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 16:19         ` Phil Auld [this message]
2019-03-15 13:30   ` Phil Auld
2019-03-15 16:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 15:30   ` Phil Auld
2019-03-15 16:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 16:17       ` Phil Auld
2019-03-18 13:29       ` Phil Auld
2019-03-18 17:14         ` bsegall
2019-03-18 17:52           ` Phil Auld

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