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* printk_ratelimited() && proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit*
@ 2019-03-20 17:03 Oleg Nesterov
  2019-03-20 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Nesterov @ 2019-03-20 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, Ingo Molnar, Linus Torvalds; +Cc: Steffen Froemer, linux-kernel

Sorry for spam, but I simply do not know whom to ask ;)

/proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit and /proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit_burst
affect printk_ratelimit_state which have a single user, printk_ratelimit() which
is "don't use" according to its comment.

At the same time, printk_ratelimited() uses a static ratelimit_state, so user-
space can't override the default DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_.* numbers.

Isn't it strange? Shouldn't printk_ratelimited() use printk_ratelimit_state ?

	--- x/include/linux/printk.h
	+++ x/include/linux/printk.h
	@@ -415,11 +415,7 @@ extern int kptr_restrict;
	 #ifdef CONFIG_PRINTK
	 #define printk_ratelimited(fmt, ...)					\
	 ({									\
	-	static DEFINE_RATELIMIT_STATE(_rs,				\
	-				      DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL,	\
	-				      DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_BURST);		\
	-									\
	-	if (__ratelimit(&_rs))						\
	+	if (__ratelimit(&printk_ratelimit_state))			\
			printk(fmt, ##__VA_ARGS__);				\
	 })
	 #else
	--- x/kernel/printk/printk.c
	+++ x/kernel/printk/printk.c
	@@ -2979,7 +2979,8 @@ int printk_deferred(const char *fmt, ...
	  * This enforces a rate limit: not more than 10 kernel messages
	  * every 5s to make a denial-of-service attack impossible.
	  */
	-DEFINE_RATELIMIT_STATE(printk_ratelimit_state, 5 * HZ, 10);
	+DEFINE_RATELIMIT_STATE(printk_ratelimit_state,
	+		DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL, DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_BURST);
	 
	 int __printk_ratelimit(const char *func)
	 {

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Another question is spin_trylock() in ___ratelimit(). This means that a message
can be silently dropped "for no reason", without rs->missed++. Doesn't look good.

The changelog for commit edaac8e3167 "ratelimit: Fix/allow use in atomic contexts"
says:

	I'd like to use printk_ratelimit() in NMI context, but it's not
	robust right now due to spinlock usage in lib/ratelimit.c. If an
	NMI is unlucky enough to hit just that spot we might lock up trying
	to take the spinlock again.

if NMI is the the only problem, why can't we do

	if (in_nmi()) {
		if (!raw_spin_trylock_irqsave(&rs->lock, flags))
			return 0;
	} else {
		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rs->lock, flags);
	}

?

Oleg.


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* Re: printk_ratelimited() && proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit*
  2019-03-20 17:03 printk_ratelimited() && proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit* Oleg Nesterov
@ 2019-03-20 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
  2019-03-20 17:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2019-03-20 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleg Nesterov
  Cc: Andrew Morton, Ingo Molnar, Steffen Froemer,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> At the same time, printk_ratelimited() uses a static ratelimit_state, so user-
> space can't override the default DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_.* numbers.
>
> Isn't it strange? Shouldn't printk_ratelimited() use printk_ratelimit_state ?

No it shouldn't.

Each printk_ratelimited() is independent, and that's very much on purpose.

One screaming printk shouldn't mean that every *other* printk would be shut up.

That said, it's likely true that nobody should really use
printk_ratelimited() anyway. But if two different users do, they
definitely shouldn't then affect each other.

                Linus

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* Re: printk_ratelimited() && proc/sys/kernel/printk_ratelimit*
  2019-03-20 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2019-03-20 17:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Nesterov @ 2019-03-20 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linus Torvalds
  Cc: Andrew Morton, Ingo Molnar, Steffen Froemer,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing

On 03/20, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > At the same time, printk_ratelimited() uses a static ratelimit_state, so user-
> > space can't override the default DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_.* numbers.
> >
> > Isn't it strange? Shouldn't printk_ratelimited() use printk_ratelimit_state ?
>
> No it shouldn't.
>
> Each printk_ratelimited() is independent, and that's very much on purpose.

Damn, I am really stupid.

Oleg.


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