From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06406C10F13 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71C1206B6 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="k01rTGBs" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729800AbfDPQHo (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:07:44 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:47736 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726605AbfDPQHn (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:07:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=38wQZpp5j2p6NeqrhoHkJr20siK/EXZ0n+4wf1Pq+0g=; b=k01rTGBsT5y4BZtcj92Fdy/gS eG2WwVGp/ubkPjhEGtYB+8I14fnNsQ1mtAR6vfLw1A3KUNFad6z/YCP7TcuJtFHt4I+qWG1Vd2PjY OkDIOg8+p7fhyYMld0w+RQ1lnwCw15dmEsR6g0gV7oCe9bftxRNJDEVngsd0Ht2ZlIdBjuGoQDM4+ TdnVjtWNTI7NLoW4qfSqIGRswPcDIgVNTDqwo8TpXd4Tvkpok6muLpCBDuCoVDnbnH35j6HbmJoQ/ d4vCLvDiNjSy6G2BIYAOJls/Gurt3iDvbvhI/ekAQxZ7e1Symb57NliJxOJJ/YuQqYQW9qKBqzikt SywTZod5w==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hGQcA-000413-QE; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:07:19 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86FC929AC1638; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:07:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:07:17 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Theodore Ts'o , David Laight , "Reshetova, Elena" , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Borkmann , "luto@kernel.org" , "luto@amacapital.net" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "jpoimboe@redhat.com" , "keescook@chromium.org" , "jannh@google.com" , "Perla, Enrico" , "mingo@redhat.com" , "bp@alien8.de" , "tglx@linutronix.de" , "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: randomize kernel stack offset upon syscall Message-ID: <20190416160717.GP4038@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20190415060918.3766-1-elena.reshetova@intel.com> <20190415072535.GA51449@gmail.com> <2236FBA76BA1254E88B949DDB74E612BA4C4F90F@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com> <20190416073444.GC127769@gmail.com> <2236FBA76BA1254E88B949DDB74E612BA4C51962@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com> <20190416120822.GV11158@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <01914abbfc1a4053897d8d87a63e3411@AcuMS.aculab.com> <20190416154348.GB3004@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190416154348.GB3004@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:43:49AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > If it's x86 specific, maybe the simplest thing to do is to use RDRAND > if it exists, and fall back to something involving a TSC and maybe > prandom_u32 (assuming on how bad you think the stack leak is going to > be) if RDRAND isn't available? >From https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190320072715.3857-1-elena.reshetova@intel.com Performance: 1) lmbench: ./lat_syscall -N 1000000 null base: Simple syscall: 0.1774 microseconds random_offset (rdtsc): Simple syscall: 0.1803 microseconds random_offset (rdrand): Simple syscall: 0.3702 microseconds 2) Andy's tests, misc-tests: ./timing_test_64 10M sys_enosys base: 10000000 loops in 1.62224s = 162.22 nsec / loop random_offset (rdtsc): 10000000 loops in 1.64660s = 164.66 nsec / loop random_offset (rdrand): 10000000 loops in 3.51315s = 351.32 nsec / loop Basically, RDRAND is frigging slow...