From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Nicolai Stange" <nstange@suse.de>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
"Jiri Kosina" <jikos@jikos.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/fpu: Remove the _GPL from the kernel_fpu_begin/end() export
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 02:47:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190504004747.GA107909@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1905032044250.10635@cbobk.fhfr.pm>
* Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>
> > Please don't start this. We have everything _GPL that is used for FPU
> > related code and only a few functions are exported because KVM needs it.
>
> That's not completely true. There are a lot of static inlines out there,
> which basically made it possible for external modules to use FPU (in some
> way) when they had kernel_fpu_[begin|end]() available.
>
> I personally don't care about ZFS a tiny little bit; but in general, the
> current situation with _GPL and non-_GPL exports is simply not nice. It's
> not really about licensing (despite the name), it's about 'internal vs
> external', which noone is probably able to define properly.
But that's exactly what licensing *IS* about: the argument is that
'internal' interfaces are clear proof that the binary module is actually
a derived work of the kernel.
(Using regular exported symbols might still make a binary module derived
work, but it's less clear-cut.)
So don't be complicit with binary module authors who try to circumvent
the GPL by offloading the actual license violation to the end user ...
> If it would be strictly about license compatibility, that'd at least
> make us somewhat deterministic.
License compatibility is rarely deterministic to begin with, there's a
lot of grey area. Adding _GPL increases the likelihood that the module
using it has to be covered by the GPL too. In fact behavior of binary
modules seems to confirm that legal expectation: very few binary modules
are trying to circumvent _GPL symbols by ignoring the _GPL attribute.
Anyway, in terms of _GPL exports the policy has always been that if a
major author of the code asks for a symbol to be _GPL, then it should be
so, even if other authors have a different judgement.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-04 0:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-02 14:42 [PATCH] x86/fpu: Remove the _GPL from the kernel_fpu_begin/end() export Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02 15:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-02 16:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02 16:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-05-03 17:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-03 18:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-05-03 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-03 19:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-05-03 18:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-04 0:47 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2019-05-04 2:28 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2019-05-04 6:40 ` Greg KH
2019-05-05 16:05 ` Rik van Riel
2019-05-05 19:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-04 7:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-07 10:31 ` David Laight
2019-05-08 12:28 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2019-05-08 12:51 ` Greg KH
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