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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>, kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: introduce configurable delay before entering idle
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:42:37 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190514174235.GA12269@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514152015.GM20906@char.us.oracle.com>

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:20:15AM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:50:23AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 05:20:37PM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > > On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 02:57, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Certain workloads perform poorly on KVM compared to baremetal
> > > > due to baremetal's ability to perform mwait on NEED_RESCHED
> > > > bit of task flags (therefore skipping the IPI).
> > > 
> > > KVM supports expose mwait to the guest, if it can solve this?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Wanpeng Li
> > 
> > Unfortunately mwait in guest is not feasible (uncompatible with multiple
> > guests). Checking whether a paravirt solution is possible.
> 
> There is the obvious problem with that the guest can be malicious and
> provide via the paravirt solution bogus data. That is it expose 0% CPU
> usage but in reality be mining and using 100%.

The idea is to have a hypercall for the guest to perform the
need_resched=1 bit set. It can only hurt itself.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-14 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-07 18:56 [PATCH] sched: introduce configurable delay before entering idle Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-07 22:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-07 23:44   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-13  9:20 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-05-13 11:31   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-05-13 11:51     ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-05-13 12:30       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-15  1:45       ` Wanpeng Li
2019-05-14 13:50   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-14 15:20     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-05-14 17:42       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2019-05-15  1:42         ` Wanpeng Li
2019-05-15 20:26           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-15 18:42     ` Ankur Arora
2019-05-15 20:43       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-17  4:32         ` Ankur Arora
2019-05-17 17:49           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-05-16  1:07       ` Wanpeng Li
2019-05-17  2:06         ` Ankur Arora

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