From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FSL_HELO_FAKE,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B78C282CE for ; Wed, 22 May 2019 21:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029742081C for ; Wed, 22 May 2019 21:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com header.i=@google.com header.b="BMZCSEeU" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730357AbfEVVCj (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 May 2019 17:02:39 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f193.google.com ([209.85.210.193]:45920 "EHLO mail-pf1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729686AbfEVVCj (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 May 2019 17:02:39 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f193.google.com with SMTP id s11so1946237pfm.12 for ; Wed, 22 May 2019 14:02:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dfPhqSj5GoutjL8OYgGz/mFeuNds5pa0KChYPD50pF0=; b=BMZCSEeU6msJt6HuJ1UYwI+gkuc/fjVhfZKr3PsGQP21L/kvLgCVwriHm2YPPM7wf0 0gU8gcmH7adK+VUNUzXfJ3RADWtEZuEYr06Uc2YrUmM10kYoy4mdshXi3WbZodJfhjZR MLxS1EfGyFa/4bc/sOROgZ4EiTrjbVWXHJj1vItQPzmTAU/+qtSivT0TxWXdhBMCGJth cdcH9C9yU5vgTIXzQ/RUfCLb+AGdLx893c5oXqcBqQTkYUdYKAuUz8kOJ50GIMuac1CW RXus6jZGcxl1DwnCKsagq/WFuEjsCjpZ54Z/RdAXPt/15dr/usvv6Zu8LqHAXorSRfoZ SYsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dfPhqSj5GoutjL8OYgGz/mFeuNds5pa0KChYPD50pF0=; b=X/HH9YkMfpeHJb+ADyeHtArF6b49BEebt+/Di7lmfEelvPgcHTMSFQcqF5rMXxsOLp PseolNmemdPjLS1HvhT7plbo82q2QQQPFTP9zrDuNQISH03gOuFD9AHplndMh73tdcRu 2+vMNxVIRaxW7kR6qht6x2YCdKNiXrW/cFOLlEDxFEAK4hSxFjAMhMskK04zzCGJlpRl RgyzIMWejS/oqtSbFN1ec4nat29NnuzQ2bPX32ubQ40Wgheg/uqnbubuW1iMU3AJWtpn c1uHzJJ2fKqIssW2rN/0f4l7vk0Q+Nbwe7S+8KOPlYqreG8J1Hp/e1JoLY2xxWAPu3Tf t5vA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUdHlz4EvPY+x7r0TSTAJRmSEowI1MowF2fUPJ0/i3V3S78U3qH ezuEshgQVOB+6E7tSfLkNc122A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzTpsGT1skaisuHAQW/D6mn5QrNgqS8lK66pFqnpleaxepnykkkoGufu8prPPom+WVpBykcCg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:2118:: with SMTP id h24mr93566652pgh.320.1558558957573; Wed, 22 May 2019 14:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from google.com ([2620:15c:2cd:2:d714:29b4:a56b:b23b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s137sm39041525pfc.119.2019.05.22.14.02.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 22 May 2019 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:02:31 -0700 From: Brendan Higgins To: Sasha Levin Cc: shuah , Dhaval Giani , Sasha Levin , Kevin Hilman , Tim Bird , LKML , Steven Rostedt , "Carpenter,Dan" , willy@infradead.org, gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk, Dmitry Vyukov , knut.omang@oracle.com Subject: Re: Linux Testing Microconference at LPC Message-ID: <20190522210231.GA212436@google.com> References: <3c6c9405-7e90-fb03-aa1c-0ada13203980@kernel.org> <20190516003649.GS11972@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190516003649.GS11972@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 08:36:49PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 04:44:19PM -0600, shuah wrote: > > Hi Sasha and Dhaval, > > > > On 4/11/19 11:37 AM, Dhaval Giani wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > This is a call for participation for the Linux Testing microconference > > > at LPC this year. > > > > > > For those who were at LPC last year, as the closing panel mentioned, > > > testing is probably the next big push needed to improve quality. From > > > getting more selftests in, to regression testing to ensure we don't > > > break realtime as more of PREEMPT_RT comes in, to more stable distros, > > > we need more testing around the kernel. > > > > > > We have talked about different efforts around testing, such as fuzzing > > > (using syzkaller and trinity), automating fuzzing with syzbot, 0day > > > testing, test frameworks such as ktests, smatch to find bugs in the > > > past. We want to push this discussion further this year and are > > > interested in hearing from you what you want to talk about, and where > > > kernel testing needs to go next. > > > > > > Please let us know what topics you believe should be a part of the > > > micro conference this year. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Sasha and Dhaval > > > > > > > A talk on KUnit from Brendan Higgins will be good addition to this > > Micro-conference. I am cc'ing Brendan on this thread. > > > > Please consider adding it. > > FWIW, the topic of unit tests is already on the schedule. There seems to > be two different sub-topics here (kunit vs KTF) so there's a good > discussion to be had here on many levels. Cool, so do we just want to go with that? Have a single slot for KUnit and KTF combined? We can each present our work up to this point; maybe offer some background and rationale on why we made the decision we have and then we can have some moderated discussion on, pros, cons, next steps, etc? Cheers