From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533C2C28CC0 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 12:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C396258B0 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 12:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727215AbfE3MFn (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 May 2019 08:05:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:58876 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727015AbfE3MFn (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 May 2019 08:05:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EA1EA0B58; Thu, 30 May 2019 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.159]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B24C819736; Thu, 30 May 2019 12:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Thu, 30 May 2019 14:05:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:05:31 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Jann Horn Cc: "Eric W . Biederman" , Andrew Morton , Kees Cook , David Howells , kernel list Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptrace: restore smp_rmb() in __ptrace_may_access() Message-ID: <20190530120531.GE22536@redhat.com> References: <20190529113157.227380-1-jannh@google.com> <20190529162120.GB27659@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Thu, 30 May 2019 12:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 05/29, Jann Horn wrote: > > > (I am wondering if smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep() could be used instead, just to > > make this code look more confusing) > > Uuh, I had no idea that that barrier type exists. The helper isn't > even explicitly mentioned in Documentation/memory-barriers.rst. I > don't really want to use dark magic in the middle of ptrace access > logic... Yes. and if it was not clear I didn't try to seriously suggest to use this barrier. I was just curious if it can be used or not in this particular case. > Anyway, looking at it, I think smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep() doesn't > make sense here; Well I still _think_ it should work, it provides the LOAD-LOAD ordering and this is what we need. But I can be easily wrong, and again, I wasn't serious. Oleg.