From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Guenter Roeck <groeck@google.com>,
Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>,
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Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@chromium.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] mfd / platform: cros_ec: Miscellaneous character device to talk with the EC
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:27:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190610072714.GG4797@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c577a7f8-b4d6-0574-bc0e-993637ced41f@infradead.org>
On Thu, 06 Jun 2019, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 16:51 +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >> Again, don't be noisy, it's not hard, and is how things have been
> >> trending for many years now.
>
> Ack that.
Not to say that this particular print is acceptable, but there are
places where a low-level (dbg/info) print on successful probe is
helpful. Driver initialisation is important!
There's a big difference between drivers 'being noisy', spilling all
sorts of information that may well be useful or interesting to a
driver developer, but has little value to anyone else, and providing a
single print to say that a device has been detected and successfully
initialised/probed.
I recently fell victim to a silent, but fully functional device.
Successful device initialisation should not be silent when debugging
has been set to the highest level IMHO.
And yes, of course turning on debugging for Driver Core works, but is
not practical for all cases and is certainly not the first port of
call when figuring out why initialisation seems to be failing for a
single particular device.
Truly surplus churn should absolutely be removed from the boot log, or
at the very least downgraded, leaving only truly useful information
such as highlighting a newly detected device for example. If the user
wants an even more silent boot log, they should turn the log level
down a notch. That is why we have log levels after all. Simply
removing all useful prints regardless of log-level is not the way to
go IMHO.
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
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[not found] <20190604152019.16100-1-enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 01/10] mfd / platform: cros_ec: Handle chained ECs as platform devices Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 03/10] mfd / platform: cros_ec: Miscellaneous character device to talk with the EC Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-04 16:58 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2019-06-04 18:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-04 18:39 ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-04 18:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-05 6:48 ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 8:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-05 8:40 ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 8:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-05 9:21 ` Lee Jones
2019-06-06 14:01 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2019-06-06 14:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-06 15:12 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2019-06-06 21:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2019-06-10 7:27 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2019-06-05 14:33 ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 04/10] mfd: cros_ec: Switch to use the new cros-ec-chardev driver Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 05/10] mfd / platform: cros_ec: Rename config to a better name Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 06/10] mfd / platform: cros_ec: Reorganize platform and mfd includes Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-05 10:02 ` Mark Brown
2019-06-05 14:20 ` Wolfram Sang
2019-06-05 14:26 ` Neil Armstrong
2019-06-05 16:26 ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-06-08 12:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-06-11 9:20 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2019-06-11 17:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-06-11 19:54 ` Sebastian Reichel
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 07/10] mfd: cros_ec: Update with SPDX Licence identifier and fix description Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 08/10] mfd: cros_ec: Use kzalloc and cros_ec_cmd_xfer_status helper Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 09/10] mfd: cros_ec: Add convenience struct to define dedicated CrOS EC MCUs Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-04 15:20 ` [PATCH 10/10] mfd: cros_ec: Add convenience struct to define autodetectable CrOS EC subdevices Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-14 16:37 ` Gwendal Grignou
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