From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Richard Gong <richard.gong@linux.intel.com>,
Romain Izard <romain.izard.pro@gmail.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Mans Rullgard <mans@mansr.com>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12 v2] Platform: add a dev_groups pointer to struct platform_driver
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:19:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190706171948.GA23324@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKdAkRQRdqRZXdkpLdTO0H8fSvy7x1sDNS4GxE0n8dxaLRDJzQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 10:04:39AM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 1:32 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 02:17:22PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:15 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Platform drivers like to add sysfs groups to their device, but right now
> > > > they have to do it "by hand". The driver core should handle this for
> > > > them, but there is no way to get to the bus-default attribute groups as
> > > > all platform devices are "special and unique" one-off drivers/devices.
> > > >
> > > > To combat this, add a dev_groups pointer to platform_driver which allows
> > > > a platform driver to set up a list of default attributes that will be
> > > > properly created and removed by the platform driver core when a probe()
> > > > function is successful and removed right before the device is unbound.
> > >
> > > Why is this limited to platform bus? Drivers for other buses also
> > > often want to augment list of their attributes during probe(). I'd
> > > move it to generic probe handling.
> >
> > This is not limited to the platform at all, the driver core supports
> > this for any bus type today, but it's then up to the bus-specific code
> > to pass that on to the driver core. That's usually set for the
> > bus-specific attributes that they want exposed for all devices of that
> > bus type (see the bus_groups, dev_groups, and drv_groups pointers in
> > struct bus_type).
> >
> > For the platform devices, the problem is that this is something that the
> > individual drivers want after they bind to the device. And as all
> > platform devices are "different" they can't be a "common" set of
> > attributes, so they need to be created after the device is bound to the
> > driver.
>
> I believe that your assertion that only platform devices want to
> install custom attributes is incorrect.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that only platform drivers want to do
this, as you say, many other drivers do as well.
> Drivers for devices attached
> to serio, i2c, USB, spi, etc, etc, all have additional attributes:
>
> dtor@dtor-ws:~/kernel/work (master *)$ grep -l '\(i2c\|usb\|spi\)'
> `git grep -l '\(device_add_group\|sysfs_create_group\)' -- drivers` |
> wc -l
> 170
>
> I am pretty sure some of this count is false positives, but majority
> is actually proper hits.
Yeah, I know, we need to add this type of functionality to those busses
as well. I don't see a way of doing it other than this bus-by-bus
conversion, do you?
> > > We already emit KOBJ_BIND when we finish binding device to a driver,
> > > regardless of the bus. I know we still need to teach systemd to handle
> > > it properly, but I think it is better than sprinkling KOBJ_CHANGE
> > > around.
> >
> > But the object's attributes did just change, which is what KOBJ_CHANGE
> > tells userspace, so this should be the correct thing to say to
> > userspace.
> >
> > And yes, ideally KOBJ_BIND would be handled, and it will be sent once
> > the device's probe function succeeds, but we have to deal with old
> > userspaces as well, right?
>
> Not for the new functionality, I do not think so. Newer kernels should
> be compatible with older userspace as it not breaking it, but new
> functionality is not guaranteed to be available with older userspace.
I agree, but again, this is a kobject change (adding attributes), so
I think the event type I picked here is the correct one.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-06 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-04 8:46 [PATCH 00/11] Platform drivers, provide a way to add sysfs groups easily Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 01/11] Platform: add a dev_groups pointer to struct platform_driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 9:32 ` Johan Hovold
2019-07-04 10:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 12:11 ` [PATCH 01/12 v2] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 21:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-06 8:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-06 17:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-06 17:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2019-07-06 17:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-19 11:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-20 4:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-25 13:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-25 19:02 ` Richard Gong
2019-07-25 19:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-25 19:13 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-25 19:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 02/11] uio: uio_fsl_elbc_gpcm: convert platform driver to use dev_groups Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 03/11] serial: sh-sci: use driver core functions, not sysfs ones Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 04/11] firmware: arm_scpi: convert platform driver to use dev_groups Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 9:10 ` Sudeep Holla
2019-07-31 12:28 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 05/11] olpc: x01: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 13:28 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 06/11] platform: x86: hp-wmi: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 13:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 07/11] video: fbdev: wm8505fb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 13:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-04 14:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 08/11] video: fbdev: w100fb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-05 15:01 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 09/11] video: fbdev: sm501fb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-05 15:01 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 10/11] input: keyboard: gpio_keys: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 8:46 ` [PATCH 11/11] input: axp20x-pek: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-04 14:26 ` [PATCH 07/11] video: fbdev: wm8505fb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-05 15:00 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
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