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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Raslan, KarimAllah" <karahmed@amazon.de>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"joao.m.martins@oracle.com" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rkrcmar@redhat.com" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kernellwp@gmail.com" <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: cputime takes cstate into consideration
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 14:38:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190709123838.GA3402@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f721d94-aa19-20a4-6930-9ed4d1cd4834@oracle.com>

On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:00:08PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> On 2019-06-26 12:23 p.m., Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Jun 2019, Raslan, KarimAllah wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 10:54 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > > > There were some ideas that Ankur (CC-ed) mentioned to me of using the perf
> > > > counters (in the host) to sample the guest and construct a better
> > > > accounting idea of what the guest does. That way the dashboard
> > > > from the host would not show 100% CPU utilization.
> > > 
> > > You can either use the UNHALTED cycles perf-counter or you can use MPERF/APERF
> > > MSRs for that. (sorry I got distracted and forgot to send the patch)
> > 
> > Sure, but then you conflict with the other people who fight tooth and nail
> > over every single performance counter.
> How about using Intel PT PwrEvt extensions? This should allow us to
> precisely track idle residency via just MWAIT and TSC packets. Should
> be pretty cheap too. It's post Cascade Lake though.

That would fully claim PT just for this stupid accounting thing and be
completely Intel specific.

Just stop this madness already.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-09 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-26  9:43 cputime takes cstate into consideration Wanpeng Li
2019-06-26 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 14:54   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-06-26 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 18:30       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-06-26 18:41         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 18:55           ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-06-26 19:19             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 19:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 19:27               ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-06-26 19:32                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 20:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 20:09                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-12-10  0:44                 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-06-26 19:29               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 18:58     ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-06-26 19:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-09  2:00         ` Ankur Arora
2019-07-09  2:06           ` Wanpeng Li
2019-07-09 12:38           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-07-09 18:27             ` Ankur Arora

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