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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Bernard Metzler <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH] rdma/siw: avoid smp_store_mb() on a u64
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:32:43 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190712153243.GI27512@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF9F46C3F6.DC3E03FF-ON00258435.00521546-00258435.00549C01@notes.na.collabserv.com>

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 03:24:09PM +0000, Bernard Metzler wrote:
> 
> >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> >From: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> >Date: 07/12/2019 04:43PM
> >Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Doug Ledford"
> ><dledford@redhat.com>, "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
> >linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: [PATCH] rdma/siw: avoid
> >smp_store_mb() on a u64
> >
> >On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:35:50PM +0000, Bernard Metzler wrote:
> >
> >> >This looks wrong to me.. a userspace notification re-arm cannot be
> >> >lost, so have a split READ/TEST/WRITE sequence can't possibly
> >work?
> >> >
> >> >I'd expect an atomic test and clear here?
> >> 
> >> We cannot avoid the case that the application re-arms the
> >> CQ only after a CQE got placed. That is why folks are polling the
> >> CQ once after re-arming it - to make sure they do not miss the
> >> very last and single CQE which would have produced a CQ event.
> >
> >That is different, that is re-arm happing after a CQE placement and
> >this can't be fixed.
> >
> >What I said is that a re-arm from userspace cannot be lost. So you
> >can't blindly clear the arm flag with the WRITE_ONCE. It might be OK
> >beacuse of the if, but...
> >
> >It is just goofy to write it without a 'test and clear' atomic. If
> >the
> >writer side consumes the notify it should always be done atomically.
> >
> Hmmm, I don't yet get why we should test and clear atomically, if we
> clear anyway - is it because we want to avoid clearing a re-arm which
> happens just after testing and before clearing?

It is just clearer as to the intent.. 

Are you trying to optimize away an atomic or something? That might
work better as a dual counter scheme.

> Another complication -- test_and_set_bit() operates on a single
> bit, but we have to test two bits, and reset both, if one is
> set.

Why are two bits needed to represent armed and !armed?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-12 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-12  8:51 [PATCH] rdma/siw: avoid smp_store_mb() on a u64 Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-12 11:33 ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 11:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 12:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-12 12:27     ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 13:05     ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 13:35         ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 13:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-12 15:14         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-12 20:24           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-12 13:53       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-12 14:35         ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 14:42           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-12 15:24             ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 15:32               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-07-12 17:40                 ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 17:45                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-12 18:06                     ` Bernard Metzler
2019-07-12 16:12               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-25 17:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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