From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D240BC7618B for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF24F2182B for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390586AbfGWO3V (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:29:21 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:53458 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729666AbfGWO3V (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:29:21 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E03EF81F18; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.136]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 47AC560603; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:29:18 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Andrew Fox , Stephen Johnston , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Stanislaw Gruszka Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/cputime: make scale_stime() more precise Message-ID: <20190723142918.GC8994@redhat.com> References: <20190718131834.GA22211@redhat.com> <20190719110349.GG3419@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190719134727.GV3463@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190719143742.GA32243@redhat.com> <20190722195605.GI6698@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190723140043.GB8994@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190723140043.GB8994@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 07/23, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > > > > Yes, statistically the numbers are proportionally divided. > > > > This; due to the loss in precision the distribution is like a step > > function around the actual s:u ratio line, but on average it still is > > s:u. > > You know, I am no longer sure... perhaps it is even worse, I need to recheck. To clarify, this is probably true even if prev_cputime adds more confusion. But how many minutes (hours? days?) you need to look at /proc/pid/stat to get the average which more or less matches the reality? Oleg.