From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>
Cc: Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
freeman.liu@unisoc.com,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iio: adc: sc27xx: Change to polling mode to read data
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:27:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190818202704.69e95a4d@archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMz4ku+ansL1RJScmJRsvKR-dJVLNjAZqgTFqRSEJWQSYUy_Sg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 10:37:44 +0800
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 16:03, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:39:45 +0800
> > Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jonathan,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 21:50, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:19:48 +0800
> > > > Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jonathan,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 01:27, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:33:50 +0800
> > > > > > Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Freeman Liu <freeman.liu@unisoc.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Spreadtrum platform, the headphone will read one ADC channel multiple
> > > > > > > times to identify the headphone type, and the headphone identification is
> > > > > > > sensitive of the ADC reading time. And we found it will take longer time
> > > > > > > to reading ADC data by using interrupt mode comparing with the polling
> > > > > > > mode, thus we should change to polling mode to improve the efficiency
> > > > > > > of reading data, which can identify the headphone type successfully.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Freeman Liu <freeman.liu@unisoc.com>
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My concerns with this sort of approach is that we may be sacrificing power
> > > > > > efficiency for some usecases to support one demanding one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The maximum sleep time is 1 second (I think) which is probably too long
> > > > > > to poll a register for in general.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 second is the timeout time, that means something wrong when reading
> > > > > the data taking 1 second, and we will poll the register status every
> > > > > 500 us.
> > > > > From the testing, polling mode takes less time than interrupt mode
> > > > > when reading ADC data multiple times, so polling mode did not
> > > > > sacrifice power
> > > > > efficiency.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm. I'll go with a probably on that, depends on interrupt response
> > > > latency etc so isn't entirely obvious. Faster response doesn't necessarily
> > > > mean lower power.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there some way we can bound that time and perhaps switch between
> > > > > > interrupt and polling modes depending on how long we expect to wait?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not think the interrupt mode is needed any more, since the ADC
> > > > > reading is so fast enough usually. Thanks.
> > > > The reason for interrupts in such devices is usually precisely the opposite.
> > > >
> > > > You do it because things are slow enough that you can go to sleep
> > > > for a long time before the interrupt occurs.
> > > >
> > > > So question becomes whether there are circumstances in which we are
> > > > running with long timescales and would benefit from using interrupts.
> > >
> > > From our testing, the ADC version time is usually about 100us, it will
> > > be faster to get data if we poll every 50us in this case. But if we
> > > change to use interrupt mode, it will take millisecond level time to
> > > get data. That will cause problems for those time sensitive scenarios,
> > > like headphone detection, that's the main reason we can not use
> > > interrupt mode.
> > >
> > > For those non-time-sensitive scenarios, yes, I agree with you, the
> > > interrupt mode will get a better power efficiency. But ADC driver can
> > > not know what scenarios asked by consumers, so changing to polling
> > > mode seems the easiest way to solve the problem, and we've applied
> > > this patch in our downstream kernel for a while, we did not see any
> > > other problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > OK. It's not ideal but sometimes such is life ;)
>
> Thanks for your understanding :)
>
> >
> > So last question - fix or not? If a fix, can I have a fixes tag
> > please.
>
> This is a bigger patch, I am afraid it can not be merged into stable
> kernel, and original code can work at most scenarios. So I think no
> need add stable tag for this patch. Thanks.
>
Fair enough. Needed a bit of merge effort as crossed with a generic
cleanup patch it seems.
Anyhow, hopefully I got it right.
Pushed out as testing for the autobuilders to play with it.
Thanks,
Jonathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-18 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-25 6:33 [PATCH] iio: adc: sc27xx: Change to polling mode to read data Baolin Wang
2019-07-27 17:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-07-29 2:19 ` Baolin Wang
2019-08-05 13:50 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-08-06 7:39 ` Baolin Wang
2019-08-11 8:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-08-12 2:37 ` Baolin Wang
2019-08-18 19:27 ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2019-08-19 1:12 ` Baolin Wang
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20190818202704.69e95a4d@archlinux \
--to=jic23@kernel.org \
--cc=baolin.wang@linaro.org \
--cc=freeman.liu@unisoc.com \
--cc=knaack.h@gmx.de \
--cc=lars@metafoo.de \
--cc=linux-iio@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pmeerw@pmeerw.net \
--cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).