From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: kan.liang@linux.intel.com
Cc: acme@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, jolsa@kernel.org, eranian@google.com,
alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:02:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190828150238.GC17205@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190826144740.10163-4-kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 07:47:35AM -0700, kan.liang@linux.intel.com wrote:
> Groups
> ======
>
> To avoid reading the METRICS register multiple times, the metrics and
> slots value can only be updated by the first slots/metrics event in a
> group. All active slots and metrics events will be updated one time.
Can't we require SLOTS to be the group leader for any Metric group?
Is there ever a case where we want to add other events to a metric
group?
> Reset
> ======
>
> The PERF_METRICS and Fixed counter 3 have to be reset for each read,
> because:
> - The 8bit metrics ratio values lose precision when the measurement
> period gets longer.
So it musn't be too hot,
> - The PERF_METRICS may report wrong value if its delta was less than
> 1/255 of SLOTS (Fixed counter 3).
it also musn't be too cold. But that leaves it unspecified what exactly
is the right range.
IOW, you want a Goldilocks number of SLOTS.
> Also, for counting, the -max_period is the initial value of the SLOTS.
> The huge initial value will definitely trigger the issue mentioned
> above. Force initial value as 0 for topdown and slots event counting.
But you just told us that 0 is wrong too (too cold).
I'm still confused by all this; when exactly does:
> NMI
> ======
>
> The METRICS register may be overflow. The bit 48 of STATUS register
> will be set. If so, update all active slots and metrics events.
that happen? It would be useful to get that METRIC_OVF (can we please
start naming them; 62,55,48 is past silly) at the exact point
where PERF_METRICS is saturated.
If this is so; then we can use this to update/reset PERF_METRICS and
nothing else.
That is; leave the SLOTS programming alone; use -max_period as usual.
Then on METRIC_OVF, read PERF_METRICS and clear it, and update all the
metric events by adding slots_delta * frac / 256 -- where slots_delta is
the SLOTS count since the last METRIC_OVF.
On read; read PERF_METRICS -- BUT DO NOT RESET -- and compute an
intermediate delta and add that to whatever stable count we had.
Maybe something like:
do {
count1 = local64_read(&event->count);
barrier();
metrics = read_perf_metrics();
barrier();
count2 = local64_read(event->count);
} while (count1 != count2);
/* no METRIC_OVF happened and {count,metrics} is consistent */
return count1 + (slots_delta * frac / 256);
> The update_topdown_event() has to read two registers separately. The
> values may be modify by a NMI. PMU has to be disabled before calling the
> function.
Then there is no mucking about with that odd counter/metrics msr pair
reset nonsense. Becuase that really stinks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-28 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-26 14:47 [RESEND PATCH V3 0/8] TopDown metrics support for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 1/8] perf/x86/intel: Set correct mask for TOPDOWN.SLOTS kan.liang
2019-08-28 7:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 2/8] perf/x86/intel: Basic support for metrics counters kan.liang
2019-08-28 7:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 7:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:59 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:51 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-28 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-08-28 19:04 ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 13:40 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 19:35 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 15:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:11 ` [PATCH] x86/math64: Provide a sane mul_u64_u32_div() implementation for x86_64 Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 9:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:17 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics Andi Kleen
2019-08-28 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 3:11 ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-29 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 13:31 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-29 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 16:56 ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-31 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-30 23:18 ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31 0:31 ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31 9:13 ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-31 17:53 ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 4/8] perf/x86/intel: Support per thread RDPMC " kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 5/8] perf/x86/intel: Export TopDown events for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 6/8] perf/x86/intel: Disable sampling read slots and topdown kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 7/8] perf, tools, stat: Support new per thread TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 8/8] perf, tools: Add documentation for topdown metrics kan.liang
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