From: Johannes Erdfelt <johannes@erdfelt.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@oracle.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Jon Grimm <Jon.Grimm@amd.com>,
kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
patrick.colp@oracle.com, Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/microcode: Add an option to reload microcode even if revision is unchanged
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 07:40:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190906144039.GA29569@sventech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1909061431330.1902@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> What your customers are asking for is a receipe for disaster. They can
> check the safety of late loading forever, it will not magically become safe
> because they do so.
>
> If you want late loading, then the whole approach needs to be reworked from
> ground up. You need to make sure that all CPUs are in a safe state,
> i.e. where switching of CPU feature bits of all sorts can be done with the
> guarantee that no CPU will return to the wrong code path after coming out
> of safe state and that any kernel internal state which depends on the
> previous set of CPU feature bits has been mopped up and switched over
> before CPUs are released.
You say that switching of CPU feature bits is problematic, but adding
new features should result only in a warning ("x86/CPU: CPU features
have changed after loading microcode, but might not take effect.").
Removing a CPU feature bit could be problematic. Other than HLE being
removed on Haswell (which the kernel shouldn't use anyway), have there
been any other cases?
I ask because we have successfully used late microcode loading on tens
of thousands of hosts. I'm a bit worried to see that there is a push to
remove a feature that we currently rely on.
JE
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-06 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-29 5:33 [PATCH] x86/microcode: Add an option to reload microcode even if revision is unchanged Ashok Raj
2019-08-29 5:38 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-08-29 6:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-29 13:02 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-03 16:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-04 22:06 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-09-04 22:12 ` Boris Petkov
2019-09-05 0:21 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-05 7:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-05 10:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-05 19:40 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-05 19:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-05 20:20 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-05 21:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-05 22:27 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-06 7:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-06 12:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-06 14:40 ` Johannes Erdfelt [this message]
2019-09-06 15:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-06 15:46 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2019-09-06 16:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-06 16:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-09-06 17:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-06 16:52 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2019-09-06 17:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-06 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-07 0:33 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-07 10:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-16 10:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-17 0:31 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-17 6:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-17 6:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-17 14:29 ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-19 19:48 ` Mihai Carabas
2019-09-06 16:55 ` Raj, Ashok
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