From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35263C4CEC6 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27B220873 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727106AbfIOHFo (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:05:44 -0400 Received: from gardel.0pointer.net ([85.214.157.71]:38286 "EHLO gardel.0pointer.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725835AbfIOHFn (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:05:43 -0400 Received: from gardel-login.0pointer.net (gardel.0pointer.net [85.214.157.71]) by gardel.0pointer.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68CE81176; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gardel-login.0pointer.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09FE7160ADC; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:41 +0200 From: Lennart Poettering To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Linus Torvalds , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , "Ahmed S. Darwish" , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 Message-ID: <20190915070541.GC29681@gardel-login> References: <20190911173624.GI2740@mit.edu> <20190912034421.GA2085@darwi-home-pc> <20190912082530.GA27365@mit.edu> <20190914150206.GA2270@darwi-home-pc> <214fed0e-6659-def9-b5f8-a9d7a8cb72af@gmail.com> <20190915065655.GB29681@gardel-login> <20190915070103.GC20811@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190915070103.GC20811@1wt.eu> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On So, 15.09.19 09:01, Willy Tarreau (w@1wt.eu) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 08:56:55AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > There's benefit in being able to wait until the pool is initialized > > before we update the random seed stored on disk with a new one, > > And what exactly makes you think that waiting with arms crossed not > doing anything else has any chance to make the situation change if > you already had no such entropy available when reaching that first > call, especially during early boot ? That code can finish 5h after boot, it's entirely fine with this specific usecase. Again: we don't delay "the boot" for this. We just delay "writing a new seed to disk" for this. And if that is 5h later, then that's totally fine, because in the meantime it's just one bg process more that hangs around waiting to do what it needs to do. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin