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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	jose.marchesi@oracle.com
Subject: Re: Do we need to correct barriering in circular-buffers.rst?
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 17:57:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190927155730.GA11194@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190927124929.GB4643@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 02:49:29PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:51:07AM +0200, Andrea Parri wrote:
> 
> > For the record, the LKMM doesn't currently model "order" derived from
> > control dependencies to a _plain_ access (even if the plain access is
> > a write): in particular, the following is racy (as far as the current
> > LKMM is concerned):
> > 
> > C rb
> > 
> > { }
> > 
> > P0(int *tail, int *data, int *head)
> > {
> > 	if (READ_ONCE(*tail)) {
> > 		*data = 1;
> > 		smp_wmb();
> > 		WRITE_ONCE(*head, 1);
> > 	}
> > }
> > 
> > P1(int *tail, int *data, int *head)
> > {
> > 	int r0;
> > 	int r1;
> > 
> > 	r0 = READ_ONCE(*head);
> > 	smp_rmb();
> > 	r1 = *data;
> > 	smp_mb();
> > 	WRITE_ONCE(*tail, 1);
> > }
> > 
> > Replacing the plain "*data = 1" with "WRITE_ONCE(*data, 1)" (or doing
> > s/READ_ONCE(*tail)/smp_load_acquire(tail)) suffices to avoid the race.
> > Maybe I'm short of imagination this morning...  but I can't currently
> > see how the compiler could "break" the above scenario.
> 
> The compiler; if sufficiently smart; is 'allowed' to change P0 into
> something terrible like:
> 
> 	*data = 1;
> 	if (*tail) {
> 		smp_wmb();
> 		*head = 1;
> 	} else
> 		*data = 0;
> 
> 
> (assuming it knows *data was 0 from a prior store or something)
> 
> Using WRITE_ONCE() defeats this because volatile indicates external
> visibility.

The much simpler solution might be writing it like:

	if (READ_ONCE(*tail) {
		barrier();
		*data = 1;
		smp_wmb();
		WRITE_ONCE(*head, 1);
	}

which I don't think the compiler is allowed to mess up.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-27 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-13 13:00 [RFC][PATCH] pipe: Convert ring to head/tail David Howells
2019-09-13 13:06 ` My just-shovel-data-through-for-X-amount-of-time test David Howells
2019-09-15 14:59 ` [RFC][PATCH] pipe: Convert ring to head/tail Will Deacon
2019-09-17 13:51   ` David Howells
2019-09-17 17:07     ` Will Deacon
2019-09-18 15:43       ` Do we need to correct barriering in circular-buffers.rst? David Howells
2019-09-18 16:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-19 13:59           ` David Howells
2019-09-19 15:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-23 14:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-27  9:51               ` Andrea Parri
2019-09-27 12:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-27 15:57                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-09-27 20:43                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-27 21:58                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-30  9:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-30 11:54                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-30 12:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra

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