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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/15] mm: Align THP mappings for non-DAX
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:20:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001142018.wpordswdkadac6kt@box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5dc7b5c1-6d7d-90ee-9423-6eda9ecb005c@oracle.com>

On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 06:18:28AM -0600, William Kucharski wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/1/19 5:32 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 05:21:26AM -0600, William Kucharski wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 05:52:13PM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > index cbe7d0619439..670a1780bd2f 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > > > > @@ -563,8 +563,6 @@ unsigned long thp_get_unmapped_area(struct file *filp, unsigned long addr,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (addr)
> > > > > 		goto out;
> > > > > -	if (!IS_DAX(filp->f_mapping->host) || !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FS_DAX_PMD))
> > > > > -		goto out;
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	addr = __thp_get_unmapped_area(filp, len, off, flags, PMD_SIZE);
> > > > > 	if (addr)
> > > > 
> > > > I think you reducing ASLR without any real indication that THP is relevant
> > > > for the VMA. We need to know if any huge page allocation will be
> > > > *attempted* for the VMA or the file.
> > > 
> > > Without a properly aligned address the code will never even attempt allocating
> > > a THP.
> > > 
> > > I don't think rounding an address to one that would be properly aligned to map
> > > to a THP if possible is all that detrimental to ASLR and without the ability to
> > > pick an aligned address it's rather unlikely anyone would ever map anything to
> > > a THP unless they explicitly designate an address with MAP_FIXED.
> > > 
> > > If you do object to the slight reduction of the ASLR address space, what
> > > alternative would you prefer to see?
> > 
> > We need to know by the time if THP is allowed for this
> > file/VMA/process/whatever. Meaning that we do not give up ASLR entropy for
> > nothing.
> > 
> > For instance, if THP is disabled globally, there is no reason to align the
> > VMA to the THP requirements.
> 
> I understand, but this code is in thp_get_unmapped_area(), which is only called
> if THP is configured and the VMA can support it.
> 
> I don't see it in Matthew's patchset, so I'm not sure if it was inadvertently
> missed in his merge or if he has other ideas for how it would eventually be
> called, but in my last patch revision the code calling it in do_mmap()
> looked like this:
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_RO_EXEC_FILEMAP_HUGE_FAULT_THP
>         /*
>          * If THP is enabled, it's a read-only executable that is
>          * MAP_PRIVATE mapped, the length is larger than a PMD page
>          * and either it's not a MAP_FIXED mapping or the passed address is
>          * properly aligned for a PMD page, attempt to get an appropriate
>          * address at which to map a PMD-sized THP page, otherwise call the
>          * normal routine.
>          */
>         if ((prot & PROT_READ) && (prot & PROT_EXEC) &&
>                 (!(prot & PROT_WRITE)) && (flags & MAP_PRIVATE) &&
>                 (!(flags & MAP_FIXED)) && len >= HPAGE_PMD_SIZE) {

len and MAP_FIXED is already handled by thp_get_unmapped_area().

	if (prot & (PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ) == (PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) &&
		(flags & MAP_PRIVATE)) {


>                 addr = thp_get_unmapped_area(file, addr, len, pgoff, flags);
> 
>                 if (addr && (!(addr & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK))) {

This check is broken.

For instance, if pgoff is one, (addr & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK) has to be equal to
PAGE_SIZE to have chance to get a huge page in the mapping.

>                         /*
>                          * If we got a suitable THP mapping address, shut off
>                          * VM_MAYWRITE for the region, since it's never what
>                          * we would want.
>                          */
>                         vm_maywrite = 0;

Wouldn't it break uprobe, for instance?

>                 } else
>                         addr = get_unmapped_area(file, addr, len, pgoff, flags);
>         } else {
> #endif
> 
> So I think that meets your expectations regarding ASLR.
> 
>    -- Bill

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-01 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-25  0:51 [RFC 00/15] Large pages in the page-cache Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 01/15] mm: Use vm_fault error code directly Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-26 13:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 02/15] fs: Introduce i_blocks_per_page Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  8:36   ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-04 19:28     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-08  3:53       ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 03/15] mm: Add file_offset_of_ helpers Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-26 14:02   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-10-04 19:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 04/15] iomap: Support large pages Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 05/15] xfs: " Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 06/15] xfs: Pass a page to xfs_finish_page_writeback Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 07/15] mm: Make prep_transhuge_page tail-callable Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-26 14:13   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 08/15] mm: Add __page_cache_alloc_order Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-26 14:15   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 09/15] mm: Allow large pages to be added to the page cache Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-26 14:22   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 10/15] mm: Allow find_get_page to be used for large pages Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-01 10:32   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 11/15] mm: Remove hpage_nr_pages Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-01 10:35   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 12/15] mm: Support removing arbitrary sized pages from mapping Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-01 10:39   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 13/15] mm: Add a huge page fault handler for files Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-01 10:42   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 14/15] mm: Align THP mappings for non-DAX Matthew Wilcox
2019-10-01 10:45   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-10-01 11:21     ` William Kucharski
2019-10-01 11:32       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-10-01 12:18         ` William Kucharski
2019-10-01 14:20           ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2019-10-01 16:08             ` William Kucharski
2019-10-02  0:15               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-25  0:52 ` [PATCH 15/15] xfs: Use filemap_huge_fault Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] ` <20191002130753.7680-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2019-10-04 19:33   ` [PATCH 03/15] mm: Add file_offset_of_ helpers Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] ` <20191002133211.15696-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2019-10-04 19:34   ` [PATCH 04/15] iomap: Support large pages Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] ` <20191003040846.17604-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2019-10-04 19:35   ` [PATCH 06/15] xfs: Pass a page to xfs_finish_page_writeback Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] ` <20191003050859.18140-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2019-10-04 19:36   ` [PATCH 11/15] mm: Remove hpage_nr_pages Matthew Wilcox

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