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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	1vier1@web.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Clarify cmpxchg()
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 15:03:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191014130321.GG2328@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191012054958.3624-7-manfred@colorfullife.com>

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 07:49:58AM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> The documentation in memory-barriers.txt claims that
> smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() are for atomic ops that do not return a
> value.
> 
> This is misleading and doesn't match the example in atomic_t.txt,
> and e.g. smp_mb__before_atomic() may and is used together with
> cmpxchg_relaxed() in the wake_q code.
> 
> The purpose of e.g. smp_mb__before_atomic() is to "upgrade" a following
> RMW atomic operation to a full memory barrier.
> The return code of the atomic operation has no impact, so all of the
> following examples are valid:

The value return of atomic ops is relevant in so far that
(traditionally) all value returning atomic ops already implied full
barriers. That of course changed when we added
_release/_acquire/_relaxed variants.

> 
> 1)
> 	smp_mb__before_atomic();
> 	atomic_add();
> 
> 2)
> 	smp_mb__before_atomic();
> 	atomic_xchg_relaxed();
> 
> 3)
> 	smp_mb__before_atomic();
> 	atomic_fetch_add_relaxed();
> 
> Invalid would be:
> 	smp_mb__before_atomic();
> 	atomic_set();
> 
> Signed-off-by: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
> Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> ---
>  Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 11 ++++++-----
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> index 1adbb8a371c7..52076b057400 100644
> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> @@ -1873,12 +1873,13 @@ There are some more advanced barrier functions:
>   (*) smp_mb__before_atomic();
>   (*) smp_mb__after_atomic();
>  
> -     These are for use with atomic (such as add, subtract, increment and
> -     decrement) functions that don't return a value, especially when used for
> -     reference counting.  These functions do not imply memory barriers.
> +     These are for use with atomic RMW functions (such as add, subtract,
> +     increment, decrement, failed conditional operations, ...) that do
> +     not imply memory barriers, but where the code needs a memory barrier,
> +     for example when used for reference counting.
>  
> -     These are also used for atomic bitop functions that do not return a
> -     value (such as set_bit and clear_bit).
> +     These are also used for atomic RMW bitop functions that do imply a full

s/do/do not/ ?

> +     memory barrier (such as set_bit and clear_bit).



  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-14 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-12  5:49 [PATCH 0/6] V2: Clarify/standardize memory barriers for ipc Manfred Spraul
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 1/6] wake_q: Cleanup + Documentation update Manfred Spraul
2019-10-14  6:34   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-10-14 12:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 2/6] ipc/mqueue.c: Remove duplicated code Manfred Spraul
2019-10-14  6:35   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-10-14 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 3/6] ipc/mqueue.c: Update/document memory barriers Manfred Spraul
2019-10-14  6:38   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-10-14 12:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-14 13:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-14 18:06       ` Manfred Spraul
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 4/6] ipc/msg.c: Update and document " Manfred Spraul
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 5/6] ipc/sem.c: Document and update " Manfred Spraul
2019-10-12  5:49 ` [PATCH 6/6] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Clarify cmpxchg() Manfred Spraul
2019-10-14 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-10-14 17:49     ` Manfred Spraul
2019-10-14 19:03       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-10-15  7:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 20:31       ` Waiman Long
2019-10-15  1:26   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-10-15  7:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 16:26       ` Davidlohr Bueso

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