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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Laurence Oberman <loberman@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] watchdog/softlockup: Preserve original timestamp when touching watchdog externally
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 14:42:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191021124214.GD1817@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190819104732.20966-2-pmladek@suse.com>

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:47:30PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> Some bug report included the same softlockups in flush_tlb_kernel_range()
> in regular intervals. Unfortunately was not clear if there was a progress
> or not.
> 
> The situation can be simulated with a simply busy loop:
> 
> 	while (true)
> 	      cpu_relax();
> 
> The softlockup detector produces:
> 
> [  168.277520] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [cat:4865]
> [  196.277604] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [cat:4865]
> [  236.277522] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [cat:4865]
> 
> One would expect only one softlockup report or several reports with
> an increased duration.

Let's just say our expectations differ.

> The result is that each softlockup is reported only once unless
> another process get scheduled:
> 
> [  320.248948] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 26s! [cat:4916]

Which would greatly confuse me; as the above would have me think the
situation got resolved (no more lockups reported) even though it is
still very much stuck there.

IOW, I don't see how this makes anything better. You're removing
information.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-21 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-19 10:47 [PATCH 0/3] watchdog/softlockup: Make softlockup reports more reliable and useful Petr Mladek
2019-08-19 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/3] watchdog/softlockup: Preserve original timestamp when touching watchdog externally Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-10-21 13:04     ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-19 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/3] watchdog/softlockup: Report the same softlockup regularly Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 13:40     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 14:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-19 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/3] Test softlockup Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 12:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 13:06     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 12:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] watchdog/softlockup: Make softlockup reports more reliable and useful Petr Mladek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-06-05 14:09 [RFC " Petr Mladek
2019-06-05 14:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] watchdog/softlockup: Preserve original timestamp when touching watchdog externally Petr Mladek

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