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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "statsfs" API design
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:40:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191111204032.GA14256@avx2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9fe3a096-20b9-979a-d4d7-48a37b059dff@redhat.com>

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 09:58:14PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 10/11/19 16:34, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > In the other direction: describe every field of /proc/*/stat file
> > without looking to the manpage:
> > 
> > $ cat /proc/self/stat
> > 5349 (cat) R 5342 5349 5342 34826 5349 4210688 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 0 1 0 864988 9183232 184 18446744073709551615 94352028622848 94352028651936 140733810522864 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 5 0 0 0 0 0 94352030751824 94352030753376 94352060055552 140733810527527 140733810527547 140733810527547 140733810532335 0
> 
> That's why this is not what I am proposing, and also not what Greg has
> mentioned.

The argument was that text is somehow superior to binary. Experiment shows
that userspace can make a mess of both modes therefore preferring one
to another should be based on something else (preferably objective).

/proc have these two problems:
First, noticeably slow:

	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21414882

Second, overinstantiating inodes and dentries:

	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180424022106.16952-1-jeffm@suse.com/

statfs maybe never get to that level but it is not hard to see what lies
at the end of the tunnel.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-11 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-09 18:44 "statsfs" API design Alexey Dobriyan
2019-11-10  9:14 ` Greg KH
2019-11-10 10:09   ` Brian Masney
2019-11-10 10:14     ` Greg KH
2019-11-10 10:19       ` Greg KH
2019-11-10 15:34   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2019-11-10 20:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-11 20:40       ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2019-11-26 10:07         ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-11-06 15:56 Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-09 15:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-11-10 13:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-26 10:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-11-26 10:50       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-26 14:18         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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