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From: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net,
	qais.yousef@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched/fair: Consider uclamp for "task fits capacity" checks
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:30:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191121153029.GA105938@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09e234a2-ea65-4d09-5215-9b0fe4ec09fe@arm.com>

On Thursday 21 Nov 2019 at 14:51:06 (+0000), Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 21/11/2019 13:30, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 Nov 2019 at 12:56:39 (+0000), Valentin Schneider wrote:
> >>> @@ -6274,6 +6274,15 @@ static int find_energy_efficient_cpu(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu)
> >>>  			if (!fits_capacity(util, cpu_cap))
> >>>  				continue;
> >>>  
> >>> +			/*
> >>> +			 * Skip CPUs that don't satisfy uclamp requests. Note
> >>> +			 * that the above already ensures the CPU has enough
> >>> +			 * spare capacity for the task; this is only really for
> >>> +			 * uclamp restrictions.
> >>> +			 */
> >>> +			if (!task_fits_capacity(p, capacity_orig_of(cpu)))
> >>> +				continue;
> >>
> >> This is partly redundant with the above, I think. What we really want here
> >> is just
> >>
> >> fits_capacity(uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MIN), capacity_orig_of(cpu))
> >>
> >> but this would require some inline #ifdeffery.
> > 
> > This suggested change lacks the UCLAMP_MAX part, which is a shame
> > because this is precisely in the EAS path that we should try and
> > down-migrate tasks if they have an appropriate max_clamp. So, your first
> > proposal made sense, IMO.
> > 
>  
> Hm right, had to let that spin in my head for a while but I think I got it.
> 
> I was only really thinking of:
> 
>   (h960: LITTLE = 462 cap, big = 1024)
>   p.uclamp.min = 512 -> skip LITTLEs regardless of the actual util_est
> 
> but your point is we also want stuff like:
> 
>   p.uclamp.max = 300 -> accept LITTLEs regardless of the actual util_est

Right, sorry if my message wasn't clear.

> I'll keep the feec() change as-is and add something like the above in the
> changelog for v2.
> 
> > Another option to avoid the redundancy would be to do something along
> > the lines of the totally untested diff below.
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 69a81a5709ff..38cb5fe7ba65 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -6372,9 +6372,12 @@ static int find_energy_efficient_cpu(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu)
> >                         if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, p->cpus_ptr))
> >                                 continue;
> >  
> > -                       /* Skip CPUs that will be overutilized. */
> >                         util = cpu_util_next(cpu, p, cpu);
> >                         cpu_cap = capacity_of(cpu);
> > +                       spare_cap = cpu_cap - util;
> > +                       util = uclamp_util_with(cpu_rq(cpu), util, p);
> > +
> > +                       /* Skip CPUs that will be overutilized. */
> >                         if (!fits_capacity(util, cpu_cap))
> >                                 continue;
> >  
> > @@ -6389,7 +6392,6 @@ static int find_energy_efficient_cpu(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu)
> >                          * Find the CPU with the maximum spare capacity in
> >                          * the performance domain
> >                          */
> > -                       spare_cap = cpu_cap - util;
> >                         if (spare_cap > max_spare_cap) {
> >                                 max_spare_cap = spare_cap;
> >                                 max_spare_cap_cpu = cpu;
> > 
> > Thoughts ?
> > 
> 
> uclamp_util_with() (or uclamp_rq_util_with() ;)) picks the max between the
> rq-aggregated clamps and the task clamps, which isn't what we want. If the
> task has a low-ish uclamp.max (e.g. the 300 example from above) but the
> rq-wide max-aggregated uclamp.max is ~800, we'd clamp using that 800. It
> makes sense for frequency selection, but not for task placement IMO.

Right, but you could argue that this is in fact a correct behaviour.
What we want to know is 'is this CPU big enough to meet the capacity
request if I enqueue p there ?'. And the 'capacity request' is the
aggregated rq-wide clamped util, IMO.

If enqueuing 'p' on a given CPU will cause the rq-wide clamped util to
go above the CPU capacity, we want to skip that CPU.

The obvious case is if p's min_clamp is larger than the CPU capacity.

But similarly, if p's max_clamp is going to be ignored because of
another task with a larger max_clamp on the same rq, this is relevant
information too --  the resulting capacity request might be above the
CPU capacity if p's util_avg is large, so we should probably skip the
CPU too no ?

Are we gaining anything if we decide to not align the EAS path and the
sugov path ?

Thanks,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-20 17:55 [PATCH 0/3] sched/fair: Task placement biasing using uclamp Valentin Schneider
2019-11-20 17:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/uclamp: Make uclamp_util_*() helpers use and return UL values Valentin Schneider
2019-11-20 17:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched/uclamp: Rename uclamp_util_*() into uclamp_rq_util_*() Valentin Schneider
2019-11-20 17:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched/fair: Consider uclamp for "task fits capacity" checks Valentin Schneider
2019-11-21 11:56   ` Quentin Perret
2019-11-21 12:56     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-21 13:30       ` Quentin Perret
2019-11-21 14:51         ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-21 15:30           ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2019-11-21 17:22             ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-24 22:20   ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-25 17:33     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-26 10:06       ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-21 12:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] sched/fair: Task placement biasing using uclamp Quentin Perret

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