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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	pauld@redhat.com, srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	quentin.perret@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com, hdanton@sina.com, parth@linux.ibm.com,
	riel@surriel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched, fair: Allow a small degree of load imbalance between SD_NUMA domains
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:50:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191218225023.GG3178@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f049805-3e97-09bb-2d32-0718be1dec9b@arm.com>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 06:50:52PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> > In general, the patch simply seeks to avoid unnecessarily cross-node
> > migrations when a machine is lightly loaded but shows benefits for other
> > workloads. While tests are still running, so far it seems to benefit
> > light-utilisation smaller workloads on large machines and does not appear
> > to do any harm to larger or parallelised workloads.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the detailed testing, I haven't digested it entirely yet but I
> appreciate the effort.
> 

No problem, this is one of those patches that it's best to test a bunch
of loads and machines. I haven't presented it all because the changelog
would be beyond ridiculous.

> > @@ -8690,6 +8686,38 @@ static inline void calculate_imbalance(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *s
> >  		env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> >  		env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0, (local->idle_cpus -
> >  						 busiest->idle_cpus) >> 1);
> > +
> > +out_spare:
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Whether balancing the number of running tasks or the number
> > +		 * of idle CPUs, consider allowing some degree of imbalance if
> > +		 * migrating between NUMA domains.
> > +		 */
> > +		if (env->sd->flags & SD_NUMA) {
> > +			unsigned int imbalance_adj, imbalance_max;
> > +
> > +			/*
> > +			 * imbalance_adj is the allowable degree of imbalance
> > +			 * to exist between two NUMA domains. It's calculated
> > +			 * relative to imbalance_pct with a minimum of two
> > +			 * tasks or idle CPUs.
> > +			 */
> > +			imbalance_adj = (busiest->group_weight *
> > +				(env->sd->imbalance_pct - 100) / 100) >> 1;
> 
> IIRC imbalance_pct for NUMA domains uses the default 125, so I read this as
> "allow an imbalance of 1 task per 8 CPU in the source group" (just making
> sure I follow).
> 

That is how it works out in most cases. As imbalance_pct can be anything
in theory, I didn't specify what it usually breaks down to. The >> 1 is
to go "half way" similar to how imbalance itself is calculated.

> > +			imbalance_adj = max(imbalance_adj, 2U);
> > +
> > +			/*
> > +			 * Ignore imbalance unless busiest sd is close to 50%
> > +			 * utilisation. At that point balancing for memory
> > +			 * bandwidth and potentially avoiding unnecessary use
> > +			 * of HT siblings is as relevant as memory locality.
> > +			 */
> > +			imbalance_max = (busiest->group_weight >> 1) - imbalance_adj;
> > +			if (env->imbalance <= imbalance_adj &&
> > +			    busiest->sum_nr_running < imbalance_max) {
> 
> The code does "unless busiest group has half as many runnable tasks (or more)
> as it has CPUs (modulo the adj thing)", is that what you mean by "unless
> busiest sd is close to 50% utilisation" in the comment? It's somewhat
> different IMO.
> 

Crap, yes. At the time of writing, I was thinking in terms of running
tasks that were fully active hence the misleading comment.

> > +				env->imbalance = 0;
> > +			}
> > +		}
> >  		return;
> >  	}
> >  
> > 
> I'm quite sure you have reasons to have written it that way, but I was
> hoping we could squash it down to something like:

I wrote it that way to make it clear exactly what has changed, the
thinking behind the checks and to avoid 80-col limits to make review
easier overall. It's a force of habit and I'm happy to reformat it as
you suggest except....

> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 08a233e97a01..f05d09a8452e 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -8680,16 +8680,27 @@ static inline void calculate_imbalance(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *s
>  			env->migration_type = migrate_task;
>  			lsub_positive(&nr_diff, local->sum_nr_running);
>  			env->imbalance = nr_diff >> 1;
> -			return;
> +		} else {
> +
> +			/*
> +			 * If there is no overload, we just want to even the number of
> +			 * idle cpus.
> +			 */
> +			env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> +			env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0, (local->idle_cpus -
> +							 busiest->idle_cpus) >> 1);
>  		}
>  
>  		/*
> -		 * If there is no overload, we just want to even the number of
> -		 * idle cpus.
> +		 * Allow for a small imbalance between NUMA groups; don't do any
> +		 * of it if there is at least half as many tasks / busy CPUs as
> +		 * there are available CPUs in the busiest group
>  		 */
> -		env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> -		env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0, (local->idle_cpus -
> -						 busiest->idle_cpus) >> 1);
> +		if (env->sd->flags & SD_NUMA &&
> +		    (busiest->sum_nr_running < busiest->group_weight >> 1) &&

This last line is not exactly equivalent to what I wrote. It would need
to be

	(busiest->sum_nr_running < (busiest->group_weight >> 1) - imbalance_adj) &&

I can test as you suggest to see if it's roughly equivalent in terms of
performance. The intent was to have a cutoff just before we reached 50%
running tasks / busy CPUs.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-18 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18 15:44 [PATCH] sched, fair: Allow a small degree of load imbalance between SD_NUMA domains Mel Gorman
2019-12-18 18:50 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-18 22:50   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2019-12-19 11:56     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-19 10:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-19 11:46     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-19 14:23       ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-19 15:23     ` Mel Gorman
2019-12-18 18:54 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-19  2:58 ` Rik van Riel
2019-12-19  8:41   ` Mel Gorman
2019-12-19 10:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-19 14:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-12-19 15:16   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-12-19 15:18   ` Mel Gorman
2019-12-19 15:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-12-19 15:58       ` Mel Gorman
2019-12-20 13:00   ` Srikar Dronamraju

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