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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Kim, David" <david.kim@ncipher.com>
Cc: "arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Magee, Tim" <tim.magee@ncipher.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drivers: misc: Add support for nCipher HSM devices
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 10:36:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109093629.GB44349@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1578561832423.48959@ncipher.com>

On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 09:23:52AM +0000, Kim, David wrote:
> > > A cryptographic accelerator uses key material which is stored on, and managed
> > > by, the host machine. Hardware security modules, such as nCipher’s Solo
> > > products, retain key material (i.e. secrets) within the secure boundary of the
> > > device, and implement various forms of access control to restrict use of that
> > > key material.
> > > 
> > > nCipher's product range started, in the early 1990s, as cryptographic
> > > accelerators.  The series of hardware security modules served by this driver
> > > still does do cryptography but their main function is the generation, management
> > > and use of keys within a secure boundary.
> > > 
> > > The driver doesn't do any cryptography. It provides the link between the
> > > userspace software and the HSM's firmware. Cryptography is done within the HSM's
> > > secure boundary.
> > 
> > So this should tie into the correct crypto/key apis that the kernel has
> > and not create a brand new user/kernel api, right?
> > 
> > Please work with the crypto kernel developers to get this right, I can't
> > take this until they agree that this code and api is correct.
> 
> 
> Although it is technically possible for us to use the linux crypto APIs, that
> doesn't fit in with how our hardware is meant to be used. Please see the
> explanation below from Ian, one of our architects. If you feel that our driver
> should instead be targeted to drivers/crypto, I can resubmit our patch to the
> crypto list and we'll discuss with the crypto maintainers.

As I said, please submit and get approval from the crypto
developers/maintainers first.  I need that before I can accept a
brand-new api for a one-off device that then needs to be supported for
40+ years.

thanks,

greg k-h

      reply	other threads:[~2020-01-09  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-20 15:47 [PATCH v2] drivers: misc: Add support for nCipher HSM devices Dave Kim
2019-12-20 21:30 ` Greg KH
2020-01-07  8:50   ` Kim, David
2020-01-07  9:28     ` Greg KH
2020-01-09  9:23       ` Kim, David
2020-01-09  9:36         ` Greg KH [this message]

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