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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched, fair: Allow a small load imbalance between low utilisation SD_NUMA domains v4
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:26:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200117142628.GR3466@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBROKKtTkz55McjJo6b=Qq0QRVckFe2fQS2kdxf8kCJLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 02:16:15PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > A more interesting example is the Facebook schbench which uses a
> > number of messaging threads to communicate with worker threads. In this
> > configuration, one messaging thread is used per NUMA node and the number of
> > worker threads is varied. The 50, 75, 90, 95, 99, 99.5 and 99.9 percentiles
> > for response latency is then reported.
> >
> > Lat 50.00th-qrtle-1        44.00 (   0.00%)       37.00 (  15.91%)
> > Lat 75.00th-qrtle-1        53.00 (   0.00%)       41.00 (  22.64%)
> > Lat 90.00th-qrtle-1        57.00 (   0.00%)       42.00 (  26.32%)
> > Lat 95.00th-qrtle-1        63.00 (   0.00%)       43.00 (  31.75%)
> > Lat 99.00th-qrtle-1        76.00 (   0.00%)       51.00 (  32.89%)
> > Lat 99.50th-qrtle-1        89.00 (   0.00%)       52.00 (  41.57%)
> > Lat 99.90th-qrtle-1        98.00 (   0.00%)       55.00 (  43.88%)
> 
> Which parameter changes between above and below tests ?
> 
> > Lat 50.00th-qrtle-2        42.00 (   0.00%)       42.00 (   0.00%)
> > Lat 75.00th-qrtle-2        48.00 (   0.00%)       47.00 (   2.08%)
> > Lat 90.00th-qrtle-2        53.00 (   0.00%)       52.00 (   1.89%)
> > Lat 95.00th-qrtle-2        55.00 (   0.00%)       53.00 (   3.64%)
> > Lat 99.00th-qrtle-2        62.00 (   0.00%)       60.00 (   3.23%)
> > Lat 99.50th-qrtle-2        63.00 (   0.00%)       63.00 (   0.00%)
> > Lat 99.90th-qrtle-2        68.00 (   0.00%)       66.00 (   2.94%
> >

The number of worker pool threads. Above is 1 worker thread, below is 2.

> > @@ -8691,16 +8687,37 @@ static inline void calculate_imbalance(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *s
> >                         env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> >                         lsub_positive(&nr_diff, local->sum_nr_running);
> >                         env->imbalance = nr_diff >> 1;
> > -                       return;
> > -               }
> > +               } else {
> >
> > -               /*
> > -                * If there is no overload, we just want to even the number of
> > -                * idle cpus.
> > -                */
> > -               env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> > -               env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0, (local->idle_cpus -
> > +                       /*
> > +                        * If there is no overload, we just want to even the number of
> > +                        * idle cpus.
> > +                        */
> > +                       env->migration_type = migrate_task;
> > +                       env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0, (local->idle_cpus -
> >                                                  busiest->idle_cpus) >> 1);
> > +               }
> > +
> > +               /* Consider allowing a small imbalance between NUMA groups */
> > +               if (env->sd->flags & SD_NUMA) {
> > +                       unsigned int imbalance_min;
> > +
> > +                       /*
> > +                        * Compute an allowed imbalance based on a simple
> > +                        * pair of communicating tasks that should remain
> > +                        * local and ignore them.
> > +                        *
> > +                        * NOTE: Generally this would have been based on
> > +                        * the domain size and this was evaluated. However,
> > +                        * the benefit is similar across a range of workloads
> > +                        * and machines but scaling by the domain size adds
> > +                        * the risk that lower domains have to be rebalanced.
> > +                        */
> > +                       imbalance_min = 2;
> > +                       if (busiest->sum_nr_running <= imbalance_min)
> > +                               env->imbalance = 0;
> 
> Out of curiosity why have you decided to use the above instead of
>   env->imbalance -= min(env->imbalance, imbalance_adj);
> 
> Have you seen perf regression with the min ?
> 

I didn't see a regression with min() but at this point, we're only
dealing with the case of ignoring a small imbalance when the busiest
group is almost completely idle. The distinction between using min and
just ignoring the imbalance is almost irrevelant in that case.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-17 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 10:13 [PATCH] sched, fair: Allow a small load imbalance between low utilisation SD_NUMA domains v4 Mel Gorman
2020-01-16 16:35 ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-17 13:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-01-17 14:15     ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-17 14:32       ` Phil Auld
2020-01-17 14:23     ` Phil Auld
2020-01-17 14:37   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-01-17 13:16 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-01-17 14:26   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2020-01-17 14:29     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-01-17 15:09 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-01-17 15:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-17 15:21 ` Phil Auld
2020-01-17 17:56 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-01-17 21:58   ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-20  8:09     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-01-20  8:33       ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-20 17:27         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-01-20 18:21           ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-21  8:55             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-01-21  9:11               ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-21 10:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-21  9:59 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-01-29 11:32 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Allow a small load imbalance between low utilisation SD_NUMA domains tip-bot2 for Mel Gorman

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