From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86/speculation: Clarify Spectre-v2 mitigation when STIBP/IBPB features are unsupported
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:14:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200121161412.GL7808@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200121160257.302999-1-vkuznets@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 05:02:57PM +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> When STIBP/IBPB features are not supported (no microcode update,
> AWS/Azure/... instances deliberately hiding SPEC_CTRL for performance
> reasons,...) /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2 looks like
>
> Mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
>
> and this looks imperfect. In particular, STIBP is 'disabled' and 'IBPB'
> is not mentioned while both features are just not supported. Also, for
> STIBP the 'disabled' state (SPECTRE_V2_USER_NONE) can represent both
> the absence of hardware support and deliberate user's choice
> (spectre_v2_user=off)
>
> Make the following adjustments:
> - Output 'unsupported' for both STIBP/IBPB when there's no support in
> hardware.
> - Output 'unneeded' for STIBP when SMT is disabled/missing (and this
> switch_to_cond_stibp is off).
>
> RFC. Some tools out there may be looking at this information so by
> changing the output we're breaking them. Also, it may make sense to
> separate kernel and userspace protections and switch to something like
>
> Mitigation: Kernel: Full generic retpoline, RSB filling; Userspace:
> Vulnerable
>
> for the above mentioned case.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/spectre.rst | 3 +++
> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c | 9 +++++++--
> 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
There's another attempt to fix similar aspects of this whole deal going
on ATM:
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191229164830.62144-1-asteinhauser@google.com
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-21 16:02 [PATCH RFC] x86/speculation: Clarify Spectre-v2 mitigation when STIBP/IBPB features are unsupported Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-01-21 16:14 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2020-01-21 16:24 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-01-21 16:22 ` Waiman Long
2020-01-21 16:37 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
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