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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, mingo@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	joel@joelfernandes.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/4] srcu: Add READ_ONCE() to srcu_struct ->srcu_gp_seq load
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:34:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200218163405.GF2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200218114334.GX14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:43:34PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:32:20AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 01:45:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 04:29:32PM -0800, paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > > 
> > > > The load of the srcu_struct structure's ->srcu_gp_seq field in
> > > > srcu_funnel_gp_start() is lockless, so this commit adds the requisite
> > > > READ_ONCE().
> > > > 
> > > > This data race was reported by KCSAN.
> > > 
> > > But is there in actual fact a data-race? AFAICT this code was just fine.
> > 
> > Now that you mention it, the lock is held at that point, isn't it?  So if
> > that READ_ONCE() actually does anything, there is a bug somewhere else.
> > 
> > Good catch, I will drop this patch, thank you!
> 
> Well, I didn't get further than the Changelog fails to describe an
> actual problem and it looks like compare-against-a-constant.
> 
> (worse, it masks off everything but the 2 lowest bits, so even if there
> was a problem with load-tearing, it still wouldn't matter)

There is still the possibility of load fusing.  And the possibility
of defending against possible future changes as well as the current
snapshot of the code base.

> I'm not going to argue with you if you want to use READ_ONCE() vs
> data_race() and a comment to denote false-positive KCSAN warnings, but I
> do feel somewhat strongly that the Changelog should describe the actual
> problem -- if there is one -- or just flat out state that this is to
> make KCSAN shut up but the code is fine.

The problem is that "the code is fine" is highly subjective and varies
over time.  :-/

But in this case there was a real problem, just that I got confused
when analyzing.

> That is; every KCSAN report should be analysed, right? All I'm asking is
> for that analysis to end up in the Changelog.

Before responding further, I have to ask...

Are you intending your "every KCSAN report should be analyzed" to apply
globally or just when someone creates a patch based on such a report?

In any case, you have acked this patch's successor (thank you very
much!), so on this specific patch (or more accurately, its successor)
I presume that we are all good.

							Thanx, Paul

> > > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/rcu/srcutree.c | 2 +-
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > index 119a373..90ab475 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > @@ -678,7 +678,7 @@ static void srcu_funnel_gp_start(struct srcu_struct *ssp, struct srcu_data *sdp,
> > > >  
> > > >  	/* If grace period not already done and none in progress, start it. */
> > > >  	if (!rcu_seq_done(&ssp->srcu_gp_seq, s) &&
> > > > -	    rcu_seq_state(ssp->srcu_gp_seq) == SRCU_STATE_IDLE) {
> > > > +	    rcu_seq_state(READ_ONCE(ssp->srcu_gp_seq)) == SRCU_STATE_IDLE) {
> > > >  		WARN_ON_ONCE(ULONG_CMP_GE(ssp->srcu_gp_seq, ssp->srcu_gp_seq_needed));
> > > >  		srcu_gp_start(ssp);
> > > >  		if (likely(srcu_init_done))
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.9.5
> > > > 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-18 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-15  0:29 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/4] SRCU updates for v5.7 Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-15  0:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/4] srcu: Fix __call_srcu()/process_srcu() datarace paulmck
2020-02-17 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-17 17:01     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-17 17:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-17 17:46         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-17 18:18     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-15  0:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/4] srcu: Fix __call_srcu()/srcu_get_delay() datarace paulmck
2020-02-15  0:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 3/4] srcu: Fix process_srcu()/srcu_batches_completed() datarace paulmck
2020-02-15  0:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/4] srcu: Add READ_ONCE() to srcu_struct ->srcu_gp_seq load paulmck
2020-02-17 12:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-17 18:32     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-17 23:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18 11:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 21:48           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18 11:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 16:34         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-02-18 20:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 21:38             ` Paul E. McKenney

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