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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user()
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:59:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200328115936.GA23230@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200328104857.GA93574@gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:48:57AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
> > 
> > rather than relying upon the magic in raw_copy_from_user()
> 
> > -		bytes = __copy_from_user_nmi(&frame.next_frame, fp, 4);
> > -		if (bytes != 0)
> > +		if (__get_user(frame.next_frame, &fp->next_frame))
> >  			break;
> > -		bytes = __copy_from_user_nmi(&frame.return_address, fp+4, 4);
> > -		if (bytes != 0)
> > +		if (__get_user(frame.return_address, &fp->return_address))
> >  			break;
> 
> Just wondering about the long term plan here: we have unsafe_get_user() 
> as a wrapper around __get_user(),

Not on x86; that wrapper is the fallback for architectures without
non-trivial user_access_begin/user_access_end

> but the __get_user() API doesn't carry 
> the 'unsafe' tag yet.
> 
> Should we add an __unsafe_get_user() alias to it perhaps, and use it in 
> all code that adds it, like the chunk above? Or rename it to 
> __unsafe_get_user() outright? No change to the logic, but it would be 
> more obvious what code has inherited old __get_user() uses and which code 
> uses __unsafe_get_user() intentionally.
> 
> Even after your series there's 700 uses of __get_user(), so it would make 
> sense to make a distinction in name at least and tag all unsafe APIs with 
> an 'unsafe_' prefix.

"unsafe" != "lacks access_ok", it's "done under user_access_begin".
And this series is just a part of much bigger pile.

FWIW, with the currently linearized part I see 26 users in arch/x86 and
108 - outside of arch/*.  With 43 of the latter supplied by the sodding
comedi_compat32.c, which needs to be rewritten anyway (or git rm'ed,
for that matter)...

We'll get there; the tricky part is the ones that come in pair with
something other than access_ok() in the first place (many of those
are KVM-related, but not all such are).

This part had been more about untangling uaccess_try stuff,,,

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-28 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-23 18:36 [RFC][PATCHSET] x86 uaccess cleanups Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:37   ` [RFC][PATCH 02/22] x86 kvm page table walks: " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 03/22] x86: switch sigframe sigset handling to explict __get_user()/__put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 04/22] x86: get rid of small constant size cases in raw_copy_{to,from}_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 05/22] vm86: get rid of get_user_ex() use Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 06/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in ia32_restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 07/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 08/22] x86: kill get_user_{try,catch,ex} Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 09/22] x86: switch save_v86_state() to unsafe_put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 10/22] x86: switch setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 11/22] x86: switch ia32_setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 12/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in {ia32,x32}_setup_rt_frame() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 13/22] x86: ia32_setup_sigcontext(): lift user_access_{begin,end}() into the callers Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-23 21:42       ` Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 14/22] x86: ia32_setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 15/22] x86: ia32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 16/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in __setup_rt_frame() (both 32bit and 64bit) Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 17/22] x86: setup_sigcontext(): list user_access_{begin,end}() into callers Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 18/22] x86: __setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 19/22] x86: __setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 20/22] x86: x32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 21/22] x86: unsafe_put_... macros for sigcontext and sigmask Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 22/22] kill uaccess_try() Al Viro
2020-03-24 15:15   ` [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-28 10:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-03-28 11:59     ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-03-29  9:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2020-03-29 16:50         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-29 17:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 17:41           ` David Laight
2020-03-29 17:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:03               ` David Laight
2020-03-29 18:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:32                   ` David Laight
2020-03-29 18:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 21:21                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-29 22:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 22:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:16               ` Al Viro
2020-03-29 18:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 17:57         ` Al Viro
2020-03-30 15:54           ` David Laight
2020-03-23 19:16 ` [RFC][PATCHSET] x86 uaccess cleanups Linus Torvalds
2020-03-27  2:24 ` [RFC][PATCHSET v2] " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:26   ` Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:30     ` Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31       ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/22] x86 kvm page table walks: " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/22] x86: switch sigframe sigset handling to explict __get_user()/__put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/22] x86: get rid of small constant size cases in raw_copy_{to,from}_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/22] vm86: get rid of get_user_ex() use Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in ia32_restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/22] x86: kill get_user_{try,catch,ex} Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/22] x86: switch save_v86_state() to unsafe_put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/22] x86: switch setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/22] x86: switch ia32_setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in {ia32,x32}_setup_rt_frame() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/22] x86: ia32_setup_sigcontext(): lift user_access_{begin,end}() into the callers Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/22] x86: ia32_setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/22] x86: ia32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in __setup_rt_frame() (both 32bit and 64bit) Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/22] x86: setup_sigcontext(): list user_access_{begin,end}() into callers Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/22] x86: __setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/22] x86: __setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/22] x86: x32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/22] x86: unsafe_put-style macro for sigmask Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/22] kill uaccess_try() Al Viro

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