From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>, Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
Alessio Balsini <balsini@google.com>,
Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>,
Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] sched/deadline: Implement fallback mechanism for !fit case
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:00:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200409150010.468951df@sweethome> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200409102557.h4humnsa5dlwvlym@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
Hi,
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:25:58 +0100
Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com> wrote:
> On 04/08/20 11:50, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > From: Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
> >
> > When a task has a runtime that cannot be served within the
> > scheduling deadline by any of the idle CPU (later_mask) the task is
> > doomed to miss its deadline.
> >
> > This can happen since the SCHED_DEADLINE admission control
> > guarantees only bounded tardiness and not the hard respect of all
> > deadlines. In this case try to select the idle CPU with the largest
> > CPU capacity to minimize tardiness.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
> > Signed-off-by: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> > ---
>
> Outside of the scope of this series. But does it make sense to make
> sched_setattr() fail to create a new deadline task if the system will
> be overcommitted, hence causing some dl tasks to miss their deadlines?
The problem is that with multiple processors/cores it is not easy to
know in advance if any task will miss a deadline (see section 3.3 of
Documentation/scheduler/sched-deadline.rst).
The admission control we are currently using should prevent
SCHED_DEADLINE tasks from overloading the system (starving non-deadline
tasks); proving hard deadline guarantees with global EDF scheduling is
much more difficult (and could be probably done in user-space, I think).
> If some overcommitting is fine (some deadlines are soft and are okay
> to fail every once in a while), does it make sense for this to be a
> tunable of how much the system can be overcommitted before
> disallowing new DL tasks to be created?
There is already a tunable for the SCHED_DEADLINE admission test
(/proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_{runtime,period}_us, if I understand well
what you are suggesting). The problem is that it is not easy to find a
value for this tunable that guarantees the hard respect of all
deadlines.
But IMHO if someone really wants hard deadline guarantees it is better
to use partitioned scheduling (see Section 5 of the SCHED_DEADLINE
documentation).
Luca
>
> Just thinking out loudly. This fallback is fine, but it made me think
> why did we have to end up in a situation that we can fail in the
> first place since the same info is available when a new DL task is
> created, and being preventative might be a better approach..
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Qais Yousef
>
> > kernel/sched/cpudeadline.c | 19 +++++++++++++++----
> > 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/cpudeadline.c b/kernel/sched/cpudeadline.c
> > index 8630f2a40a3f..8525d73e3de4 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/cpudeadline.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/cpudeadline.c
> > @@ -121,19 +121,30 @@ int cpudl_find(struct cpudl *cp, struct
> > task_struct *p,
> > if (later_mask &&
> > cpumask_and(later_mask, cp->free_cpus, p->cpus_ptr)) {
> > - int cpu;
> > + unsigned long cap, max_cap = 0;
> > + int cpu, max_cpu = -1;
> >
> > if
> > (!static_branch_unlikely(&sched_asym_cpucapacity)) return 1;
> >
> > /* Ensure the capacity of the CPUs fits the task.
> > */ for_each_cpu(cpu, later_mask) {
> > - if (!dl_task_fits_capacity(p, cpu))
> > + if (!dl_task_fits_capacity(p, cpu)) {
> > cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, later_mask);
> > +
> > + cap = arch_scale_cpu_capacity(cpu);
> > +
> > + if (cap > max_cap) {
> > + max_cap = cap;
> > + max_cpu = cpu;
> > + }
> > + }
> > }
> >
> > - if (!cpumask_empty(later_mask))
> > - return 1;
> > + if (cpumask_empty(later_mask))
> > + cpumask_set_cpu(max_cpu, later_mask);
> > +
> > + return 1;
> > } else {
> > int best_cpu = cpudl_maximum(cp);
> >
> > --
> > 2.17.1
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-09 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-08 9:50 [PATCH 0/4] Capacity awareness for SCHED_DEADLINE Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-08 9:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/topology: Store root domain CPU capacity sum Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-08 12:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-08 16:30 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-08 17:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-09 13:50 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-09 14:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-14 9:20 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-14 12:45 ` Quentin Perret
2020-04-14 15:27 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-14 15:43 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-08 9:50 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/deadline: Improve admission control for asymmetric CPU capacities Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-08 10:42 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-08 12:26 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-08 13:30 ` luca abeni
2020-04-08 14:23 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-08 15:01 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-09 17:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-14 11:40 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-14 14:29 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-14 15:41 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-14 14:28 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-17 12:19 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-17 14:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-17 15:08 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-17 15:47 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-08 9:50 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/deadline: Make DL capacity-aware Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-10 12:52 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-15 9:39 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-15 13:20 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-15 16:42 ` luca abeni
2020-04-16 13:19 ` Juri Lelli
2020-04-08 9:50 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/deadline: Implement fallback mechanism for !fit case Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-09 10:25 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-09 13:00 ` luca abeni [this message]
2020-04-09 14:55 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-09 18:43 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-14 11:29 ` Qais Yousef
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