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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] rcu/tree: Refactor object allocation and try harder for array allocation
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 14:17:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505181743.GA109369@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200423195955.GA476@pc636>

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> b) Double argument(with rcu_head)
> This case we consider as it gets called from atomic context even though
> it can be not. Why we consider such case as atomic: we just assume that.
> The reason is to keep it simple, because it is not possible to detect whether
> a current context is attomic or not(for all type of kernels), i mean the one
> that calls kfree_rcu().
> 
> In this case we do not have synchronize_rcu() option. Instead we have an
> object with rcu_head inside. If an allocation gets failed we just make
> use of rcu_head inside the object, regular queuing.
> 
> In this case we do not need to hard in order to obtain memory. Therefore
> my question was to Johannes what is best way here. Since we decided to
> minimize reclaiming, whereas GFP_NOWAIT wakes up kswapd if no memory.
> GFP_ATOMIC also is not good, because for (b) we do not need to waste
> it.

Waking kswapd is fine, because it's a shared facility that doesn't
just reclaim on your behalf but on behalf of a central goal: to get
the freelist back to the watermarks. If they're low, somebody will
sooner or later kick kswapd anyway to do exactly that.

So unless you ask kswapd for a high order page that is unlikely to be
needed by anybody else, you're only doing the inevitable.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-05 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-13 21:15 [PATCH RFC] rcu/tree: Refactor object allocation and try harder for array allocation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-04-14 19:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 10:30   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 13:17     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 18:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-22 14:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-04-22 15:35           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-23 17:48             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-04-23 18:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-23 18:27                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-23 19:21                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-23 19:59                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-24  4:16                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-24 12:28                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-05-05 18:17                       ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2020-05-05 18:33                         ` Uladzislau Rezki

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