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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Michael Petlan <mpetlan@redhat.com>,
	Kajol Jain <kjain@linux.ibm.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	"Paul A. Clarke" <pc@us.ibm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/10] perf tools: Add support to reuse metric
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 09:46:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200627124650.GE29008@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fVMs4Ok3=gYmzheNTzbBUGGHbCr0cpJSm9TV45aeZb4Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Em Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 02:44:14PM -0700, Ian Rogers escreveu:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:25 PM Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 09:47:10PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > this patchset is adding the support to reused metric in another
> > > metric. The metric needs to be referenced by 'metric:' prefix.

> > Why is the prefix needed?

> > Could just look it up without prefix.

> The name could be a metric or an event, the logic for each is quite
> different. You could look up an event and when it fails assume it was
> a metric, but I like the simplicity of this approach. Maybe this
> change could be adopted more widely with something like "perf stat -e
> metric:IPC -a -I 1000" rather than the current "perf stat -M IPC -a -I
> 1000".

Humm, the more concise, the better, so I think that we should use
metric: when we notice ambiguity, i.e. we should first lookup the
provided name as an event, and even if it resolves, look it up as well
as a metric, if both lookups work, then one need to disambiguate.

But then, why should we pick a name for a metric that is also a name for
an event? Can you think about a concrete case? Can't we detect this at
build time, when introducing the new metric and bail out?

- Arnaldo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-27 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-26 19:47 [RFC 00/10] perf tools: Add support to reuse metric Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] perf tools: Rename expr__add_id to expr__add_val Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 20:01   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:49     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 15:48       ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf tools: Add struct expr_parse_data to keep expr value Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 20:04   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:24     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 15:49       ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf tools: Add expr__add_id function Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 20:07   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:38     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] perf tools: Change expr__get_id to return struct expr_parse_data Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 20:25   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] perf tools: Add expr__del_id function Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 20:55   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:52     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf tools: Collect other metrics in struct egroup Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:06   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 22:04     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:48   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 22:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 15:54       ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf tools: Collect other metrics in struct metric_expr Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:10   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:55     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 15:55       ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] perf tools: Add other metrics to hash data Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:16   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:56     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] perf tools: Compute other metrics Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:24   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 21:59     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 16:35       ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-29 19:23         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 19:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] perf tests: Add cache_miss_cycles to metric parse test Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:40   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 22:00     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-26 21:25 ` [RFC 00/10] perf tools: Add support to reuse metric Andi Kleen
2020-06-26 21:44   ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-26 21:57     ` Andi Kleen
2020-06-27 12:48       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-06-27 23:25         ` Ian Rogers
2020-06-28 22:17         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-06-29 12:02       ` Michael Petlan
2020-06-27 12:46     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-06-27  8:13 ` John Garry
2020-06-29 21:33   ` Andi Kleen

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