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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: objtool clac/stac handling change..
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 23:12:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200703221219.GV2786714@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjmmTwdY22kc0+HAZ2AWFreqLE8_Jud9j7MbVzT2rs-fQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 02:10:08PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Yeah, the "stac" instruction isn't hugely fast, and serializes the
> pipeline, so it's a nasty 20 cycles or something.
> 
> But for chissake, this
>  (a) happens approximately never
>  (b) is after a fault that took a thousand cycles
> 
> so the trivial thing to do is to just say "yeah, you need to add the
> STAC when your optimistic thing failed and you have to fall back to
> the byte-at-a-time tail case".

Not the problem I'm concerned about, really.  However, I would really
like to lift stac/clac into the *callers* of raw_copy_from_user()
et.al. and fold them into user_access_begin/user_access_end there.

And that's where the rules become very interesting - raw_copy_from_user()
is not "succeed or fail" thing, it's "tell me how much has been left
to copy" one.  Put it that way - here we really do have outputs on
fault.

PS: I hope to kill __copy_from_user()/__copy_to_user() outside of
arch/* this cycle; not much is left by now.  So I'm not talking about
lifting stac/clac out into the wild - it will merge with access_ok
into user_access_begin/end.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-03 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-01 18:22 objtool clac/stac handling change Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 19:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 20:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-01 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-02  8:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-02  2:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  2:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  3:08             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 19:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 19:59     ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 13:34         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-02 14:01           ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 14:04             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 15:13           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 20:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  3:17             ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  5:27               ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 19:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:17             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 20:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:59                 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 21:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  1:33                     ` Al Viro
2020-07-03  3:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:02                       ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-03 22:25                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:59                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:04                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:12                           ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-07-04  0:49                         ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  1:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:30                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  3:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:11                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-07 12:35                             ` David Laight
2020-07-10 22:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-13  9:32                                 ` David Laight

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