From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: objtool clac/stac handling change..
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 23:25:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200703222516.GW2786714@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUpmTqHbZ_XtGhOqFQ4iWQ5bSqppXsHzaGVGdGqBCra0Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 02:41:43PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> I still feel like the ex_handler-automatically-does-CLAC thing is an
> optimization that isn't worth it. Once we pull our heads out of the
> giant pile of macros and inlined functions, we're talking about
> changing:
> clac; jmp. But on the flip side, the jump folding pattern looks
> better like this:
>
> unsafe_uaccess_begin();
> if (unsafe_get_user(...))
> goto fail;
> if (unsafe_get_user(...))
> goto fail;
> unsafe_uaccess_end();
>
> fail:
> unsafe_uaccess_end();
>
> than like:
>
> unsafe_uaccess_begin();
> if (unsafe_get_user(...))
> goto fail;
> if (unsafe_get_user(...))
> goto fail;
> unsafe_uaccess_end();
>
> fail:
> /* not unsafe_uaccess_end(); because unsafe_get_user() has
> conditional-CLAC semantics */
First of all, user_access_begin() itself can bloody well fail. So you need
to handle that as well. And then it becomes nowhere near as pretty.
We can pretend that it's normal C; however, that's not true at all - there
are shitloads of things you can't do in such areas, starting with "call anything
other than a very small list of functions". It's not a normal C environment
at all.
My problem is not with having AC turned off in exception handler - it leads
to saner patterns, no arguments here. I'm not happy with doing doing that
on *every* exception, with no way to specify whether it should or should not
be done. It's not like it would've cost us anything to be able to specify
that - we have the third argument of _ASM_EXTABLE_HANDLE(), after all.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-03 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-01 18:22 objtool clac/stac handling change Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 20:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 20:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-01 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 0:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-02 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-01 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 0:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-02 2:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 3:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 19:59 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 13:34 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-02 14:01 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 14:04 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 15:13 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 3:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03 3:17 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03 5:27 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:17 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:59 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 21:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 1:33 ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:02 ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-03 22:25 ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-07-03 21:59 ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:04 ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:12 ` Al Viro
2020-07-04 0:49 ` Al Viro
2020-07-04 1:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04 2:30 ` Al Viro
2020-07-04 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04 2:11 ` Al Viro
2020-07-07 12:35 ` David Laight
2020-07-10 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-13 9:32 ` David Laight
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