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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: X86: Move ignore_msrs handling upper the stack
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:24:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200709192440.GD24919@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200709182220.GG199122@xz-x1>

On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 02:22:20PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 08:47:26AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 04:24:34PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 26/06/20 20:18, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > >> Btw, would it be more staightforward to check "vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities &
> > > >> ARCH_CAP_TSX_CTRL_MSR" rather than "*ebx | (F(RTM) | F(HLE))" even if we want
> > > >> to have such a fix?
> > > > Not really, That ends up duplicating the check in vmx_get_msr().  From an
> > > > emulation perspective, this really is a "guest" access to the MSR, in the
> > > > sense that it the virtual CPU is in the guest domain, i.e. not a god-like
> > > > entity that gets to break the rules of emulation.
> > > 
> > > But if you wrote a guest that wants to read MSR_IA32_TSX_CTRL, there are
> > > two choices:
> > > 
> > > 1) check ARCH_CAPABILITIES first
> > > 
> > > 2) blindly access it and default to 0.
> > > 
> > > Both are fine, because we know MSR_IA32_TSX_CTRL has no
> > > reserved/must-be-one bits.  Calling __kvm_get_msr and checking for an
> > > invalid MSR through the return value is not breaking the rules of
> > > emulation, it is "faking" a #GP handler.
> > 
> > "guest" was the wrong choice of word.  My point was that, IMO, emulation
> > should never set host_initiated=true.
> > 
> > To me, accessing MSRs with host_initiated is the equivalent of loading a
> > ucode patch, i.e. it's super duper special stuff that deliberately turns
> > off all safeguards and can change the fundamental behavior of the (virtual)
> > CPU.
> 
> This seems to be an orthogonal change against what this series tried to do.  We
> use host_initiated=true in current code, and this series won't change that fact
> either.  As I mentioned in the other thread, at least the rdmsr warning is
> ambiguous when it's not initiated from the guest if without this patchset, and
> this series could address that.

My argument is that using host_initiated=true is wrong.  

> > > So I think Peter's patch is fine, but (possibly on top as a third patch)
> > > __must_check should be added to MSR getters and setters.  Also one
> > > possibility is to return -EINVAL for invalid MSRs.
> 
> Yeah I can add another patch for that.  Also if to repost, I tend to also
> introduce KVM_MSR_RET_[OK|ERROR] too, which seems to be cleaner when we had
> KVM_MSR_RET_INVALID.
> 
> Any objections before I repost?

Heh, or perhaps "Any objections that haven't been overruled before I repost?" :-D

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-09 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-22 22:04 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: X86: A few fixes around ignore_msrs Peter Xu
2020-06-22 22:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: X86: Move ignore_msrs handling upper the stack Peter Xu
2020-06-25  6:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-25  8:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-25 16:25       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-25 17:45         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-25 18:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-26 15:56           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-26 17:37             ` Peter Xu
2020-06-26 17:46               ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-26 18:07         ` Peter Xu
2020-06-26 18:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-26 19:11             ` Peter Xu
2020-06-27 14:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-30 15:47               ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-09 18:22                 ` Peter Xu
2020-07-09 18:24                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-09 18:34                     ` Peter Xu
2020-07-09 19:24                   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-07-09 21:09                     ` Peter Xu
2020-07-09 21:26                       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-09 21:50                         ` Peter Xu
2020-07-09 22:11                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-10  4:58                             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-22 22:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: X86: Do the same ignore_msrs check for feature msrs Peter Xu

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