From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72709C433EC for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA2720704 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727096AbgGQIff (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:35:35 -0400 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz ([46.255.230.98]:56494 "EHLO jabberwock.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726650AbgGQIfc (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:35:32 -0400 Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 003E01C0BEB; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:27 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Dan Williams Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Jonathan Corbet , Kees Cook , Chris Mason , Greg Kroah-Hartman , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200717083527.GA1027@bug> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > +On the triviality of replacing words > +==================================== > + > +The African slave trade was a brutal system of human misery deployed at > +global scale. Some word choice decisions in a modern software project > +does next to nothing to compensate for that legacy. So why put any > +effort into something so trivial in comparison? Because the goal is not > +to repair, or erase the past. The goal is to maximize availability and > +efficiency of the global developer community to participate in the Linux > +kernel development process. I'd preffer to keep politics out of kernel. > +of 'blacklist' is devoid of a historical racial connection. However, one > +thought exercise is to consider replacing 'blacklist/whitelist' with > +'redlist/greenlist'. Realize that the replacement only makes sense if > +you have been socialized with the concepts that 'red/green' implies > +'stop/go'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The So you are trying to blacklist colors. That's stupid. > +socialization of 'black/white' to have the connotation of > +'impermissible/permissible' does not support inclusion. > + > +Inclusion == global developer community efficiency. It seems inclusion == reason to push politics and questionable patches into kernel. That is opposite of efficiency. :-( Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html