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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 03/17] perf ftrace: add option -t/--tid to filter by thread id
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:34:55 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200717193455.GD77866@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200717135351.5fb1ce95@oasis.local.home>

Em Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 01:53:51PM -0400, Steven Rostedt escreveu:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:40:53 -0300 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
 
> > Say you use:

> > ^C[root@ssdandy ~]# cyclictest --smp -um -p95
> > # /dev/cpu_dma_latency set to 0us
> > policy: fifo: loadavg: 0.05 0.03 0.06 2/409 29072

> > T: 0 (29065) P:95 I:1000 C:    518 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       6
> > T: 1 (29066) P:95 I:1500 C:    343 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       5
> > T: 2 (29067) P:95 I:2000 C:    256 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       7
> > T: 3 (29068) P:95 I:2500 C:    203 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       5
> > T: 4 (29069) P:95 I:3000 C:    168 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    3 Max:       6
> > T: 5 (29070) P:95 I:3500 C:    143 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       6
> > T: 6 (29071) P:95 I:4000 C:    124 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:       7
> > T: 7 (29072) P:95 I:4500 C:    110 Min:      2 Act:    2 Avg:    2 Max:

> > Then we do:

> > # pidof cyclictest
> > 29064
> > #

> > If we use:

> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf record --pid 29064
> > ^C[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> > [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.052 MB perf.data (866 samples) ]

> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf report --task
> > #      pid      tid     ppid  comm
> >          0        0       -1 |swapper
> >      29064    29064       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29065       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29066       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29067       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29068       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29069       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29070       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29071       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29072       -1 |cyclictest
> > [root@ssdandy ~]#

> "ftrace" is inside the kernel. But you could specify all those PIDs in
> the set_ftrace_pid and set_event_pid files, and they will be traced. If
> you want to trace the children of those PIDs, you would need to set the
> options function function-fork and event-fork respectively. And then
> any time a process with a pid in the set_ftrace_pid or set_event_pid
> file forks, its child will also be added to that file and it too will
> be traced. If the fork options are set, then when a task exits, its pid
> will be removed from the file.

>  echo 1 > options/function-fork
>  echo 1 > options/event-fork

cool, so its possible to have the same sort of behaviour one expects
using --pid or --tid and --inherit with perf record/trace/top/etc

Its just some confusion about what perf understands by --pid and --tid
and the jargon used by ftrace, we can make 'perf ftrace' use the knobs
you mentioned and achieve the expected results as with other perf
subcommands, good.
 
> > If we are interested only on the thread running on CPU3 we can do:
> > 
> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf report --task
> > #      pid      tid     ppid  comm
> >          0        0       -1 |swapper
> >      29064    29064       -1 |cyclictest
> >      29064    29068       -1 |cyclictest
> > [root@ssdandy ~]#

> > The first 29064 is just to have info on who created 29068, i.e.:

> > Its just the synthesized info for 29068 creator:

> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf report -D | grep -w 29064/29064
> > 0 0x4690 [0x30]: PERF_RECORD_COMM: cyclictest:29064/29064
> > 0 0x46c0 [0x70]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x400000(0xa000) @ 0 fd:00 136246288 0]: r-xp /usr/bin/cyclictest
> > 0 0x4730 [0x80]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f990f505000(0x15000) @ 0 fd:00 201479398 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/libgcc_s-4.8.5-20150702.so.1
> > 0 0x47b0 [0x70]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f990f71b000(0x1c3000) @ 0 fd:00 201334455 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/libc-2.17.so
> > 0 0x4820 [0x78]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f990fae9000(0xa000) @ 0 fd:00 204604380 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/libnuma.so.1.0.0
> > 0 0x4898 [0x78]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f990fcf5000(0x17000) @ 0 fd:00 201335636 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/libpthread-2.17.so
> > 0 0x4910 [0x78]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f990ff11000(0x7000) @ 0 fd:00 201335640 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/librt-2.17.so
> > 0 0x4988 [0x70]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7f9910119000(0x22000) @ 0 fd:00 203595299 0]: r-xp /usr/lib64/ld-2.17.so
> > 0 0x49f8 [0x60]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0x7fff0b52d000(0x2000) @ 0 00:00 0 0]: r-xp [vdso]
> > 0 0x4a58 [0x68]: PERF_RECORD_MMAP2 29064/29064: [0xffffffffff600000(0x1000) @ 0 00:00 0 0]: r-xp [vsyscall]
> > [root@ssdandy ~]#

> > No PERF_RECORD_SAMPLEs.

> > Those are only for:

> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE | head -5
> > 147224656598815 0x4ac0 [0x28]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x4001): 29064/29068: 0xffffffffa8e5b568 period: 1 addr: 0
> > 147224656606270 0x4ae8 [0x28]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x4001): 29064/29068: 0xffffffffa8e5b568 period: 1 addr: 0
> > 147224656611284 0x4b10 [0x28]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x4001): 29064/29068: 0xffffffffa8e5b568 period: 5 addr: 0
> > 147224656616225 0x4b38 [0x28]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x4001): 29064/29068: 0xffffffffa8e5b568 period: 35 addr: 0
> > 147224656621152 0x4b60 [0x28]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x4001): 29064/29068: 0xffffffffa8e5b568 period: 252 addr: 0
> > [root@ssdandy ~]#

> > [root@ssdandy ~]# perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE | cut -d: -f3 | sort -u
> >  29064/29068
 
> The above can somewhat be done in trace-cmd, but not fully. But that's
> all userspace commands, nothing with the kernel.
 
> > [root@ssdandy ~]#

> > Is there a way in ftrace to ask for a pid and its children? Pre-existing
> > and and new ones the --pid specified will create after we start
> > monitoring?
 
> As described above, yes. :-)

Changbin, you can take from here :-)

And to reiterate, for me the value of 'perf ftrace' is to allow people
used to perf to be able to switch to ftrace quickly, just changing:

   perf record/top/stat/trace/report/script/etc --pid 1234

by:

   perf ftrace --pid 1234

And have the tracefs ftrace knobs set up to have what is expected in
terms of targets to trace as the other perf tools.

And not just --pid and --tid, but --cgroup, --cpu, etc.

i.e., 'perf ftrace' being _a_ front-end aplication to ftrace.

:-)

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-17 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-11 12:40 [PATCH v5 00/17] perf: ftrace enhancement Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] perf ftrace: select function/function_graph tracer automatically Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] perf ftrace: add option '-F/--funcs' to list available functions Changbin Du
2020-07-13  1:49   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-07-16 15:21     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-17 13:58     ` Changbin Du
2020-07-17 15:05   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-17 16:21     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-17 16:27       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-17 16:37         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-18  7:06     ` Changbin Du
2020-07-17 17:39   ` Ian Rogers
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] perf ftrace: add option -t/--tid to filter by thread id Changbin Du
2020-07-16 15:36   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-17 13:26     ` Changbin Du
2020-07-17 16:44       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-17 17:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-17 17:40         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-17 17:53           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-17 19:34             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-07-17 19:44               ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-21 13:44                 ` Namhyung Kim
2020-07-18  5:47         ` Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] perf ftrace: factor out function write_tracing_file_int() Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] perf ftrace: add option '-m/--buffer-size' to set per-cpu buffer size Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] perf ftrace: show trace column header Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] perf ftrace: add option '--inherit' to trace children processes Changbin Du
2020-07-13  1:59   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-07-17 14:27     ` Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] perf: util: add general function to parse sublevel options Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] perf ftrace: add support for tracing option 'func_stack_trace' Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] perf ftrace: add support for trace option sleep-time Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] perf ftrace: add support for trace option funcgraph-irqs Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] perf ftrace: add support for tracing option 'irq-info' Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] perf ftrace: add option 'verbose' to show more info for graph tracer Changbin Du
2020-07-13  2:07   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-07-17 14:13     ` Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] perf ftrace: add support for trace option tracing_thresh Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] perf: ftrace: allow set graph depth by '--graph-opts' Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] perf ftrace: add option -D/--delay to delay tracing Changbin Du
2020-07-11 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] perf ftrace: add change log Changbin Du

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