From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
arjan@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:27:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202008061052.DA6F3AA2@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200806153258.GB2131635@gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 05:32:58PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > Performance Impact
> > ------------------
>
> > * Run time
> > The performance impact at run-time of function reordering varies by workload.
> > Using kcbench, a kernel compilation benchmark, the performance of a kernel
> > build with finer grained KASLR was about 1% slower than a kernel with standard
> > KASLR. Analysis with perf showed a slightly higher percentage of
> > L1-icache-load-misses. Other workloads were examined as well, with varied
> > results. Some workloads performed significantly worse under FGKASLR, while
> > others stayed the same or were mysteriously better. In general, it will
> > depend on the code flow whether or not finer grained KASLR will impact
> > your workload, and how the underlying code was designed. Because the layout
> > changes per boot, each time a system is rebooted the performance of a workload
> > may change.
>
> I'd guess that the biggest performance impact comes from tearing apart
> 'groups' of functions that particular workloads are using.
>
> In that sense it might be worthwile to add a '__kaslr_group' function
> tag to key functions, which would keep certain performance critical
> functions next to each other.
We kind of already do this manually for things like the scheduler, etc,
using macros like ".whatever.text", so we might be able to create a more
generalized approach for those. Right now they require a "section" macro
usage and a linker script __start* and __end* marker, etc:
#define SCHED_TEXT \
ALIGN_FUNCTION(); \
__sched_text_start = .; \
*(.sched.text) \
__sched_text_end = .;
Manually collected each whatever_TEXT define and building out each
__whatever_start, etc is annoying. It'd be really cool to have linker
script have wildcard replacements for build a syntax like this, based
on the presences of matching input sections:
.%.text : {
__%_start = .;
*(.%.text.hot)
*(.%.text)
*(.%.text.*)
*(.%.text.unlikely)
__%_end = .;
}
> I'd also suggest allowing the passing in of a boot-time pseudo-random
> generator seed number, which would allow the creation of a
> pseudo-randomized but repeatable layout across reboots.
This was present in earlier versions of the series.
--
Kees Cook
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-06 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-17 16:59 [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 16:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] objtool: Do not assume order of parent/child functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 16:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] x86: tools/relocs: Support >64K section headers Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] x86/boot: Allow a "silent" kaslr random byte fetch Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] x86: Makefile: Add build and config option for CONFIG_FG_KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] x86: Make sure _etext includes function sections Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] x86/tools: Add relative relocs for randomized functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] x86/boot/compressed: Avoid duplicate malloc() implementations Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] x86: Add support for function granular KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] kallsyms: Hide layout Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-20 1:25 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-20 16:59 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] module: Reorder functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-28 17:29 ` Jessica Yu
2020-07-22 9:27 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR Miroslav Benes
2020-07-22 14:39 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 14:51 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 14:56 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 18:24 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 16:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-22 19:42 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 19:56 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 21:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-21 23:02 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-25 16:16 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-28 10:21 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-08-28 19:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-23 22:59 ` Fangrui Song
2021-01-25 17:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-03 11:39 ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2020-08-03 17:45 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 18:17 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-03 19:38 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-03 20:11 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 21:12 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-03 21:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-04 0:48 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-04 17:04 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-04 18:23 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-07 16:38 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-07 17:20 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-10 16:10 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-12 17:18 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-06 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2020-08-06 19:24 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-06 19:27 ` Kees Cook [this message]
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