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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Daniel Gutson <daniel@eclypsium.com>,
	Tudor Ambarus <tudor.ambarus@microchip.com>,
	Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <bbrezillon@kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Bazhaniuk <alex@eclypsium.com>,
	Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: spi-nor: intel-spi: Do not try to make the SPI flash chip writable
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:11:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819091123.GE1375436@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0Bq-ucgC4Xue+B_HV97pTX8YRr4hYh1gfrfGBV_H1EUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 10:38:24AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:57 AM Mika Westerberg
> <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:55:59PM -0300, Daniel Gutson wrote:
> > > > If you care about other (malicious) code writing to the driver, please explain
> > > > what the specific attack scenario is that you are worried about, and
> > > > why you think
> > > > this is not sufficient. What code would be able to write to the device
> > > > if not the
> > > > device driver itself?
> > >
> > > Maybe Mika can answer this better, but what I'm trying to do is to
> > > limit the possibility of
> > > damage, as explained in the Kconfig:
> > > "Intel PCH/PCU SPI flash PCI driver (DANGEROUS)"
> > > "Say N here unless you know what you are doing. Overwriting the
> > >   SPI flash may render the system unbootable."
> >
> > Right, the PCI part of the driver unconditionally (and wrongly) tried to
> > set the chip writeable.
> >
> > What this whole thing tries to protect is that the user does not
> > accidentally write to the flash chip. It contains BIOS and other
> > important firmware so touching it (if it is not locked in the BIOS side)
> > may potentially brick the system. That's why we also require that
> > command line parameter so the user who knows what he or she is doing can
> > enable it for writing.
> 
> The same thing can happen with the platform driver if you load it
> once with 'writeable=1' and then unload, leaving the chip in writeable
> state. If you load it a second time without the module parameter, it
> will be in the same state as the PCI driver: the hardware bit allows
> writing, but the MTD layer prevents writes from being issued to the
> device.

Right.

> > Actually thinking about this bit more, to make PCI and the platform
> > parts consistent we can make the "writeable" control this for the PCI
> > part as well. So what if we add a callback to struct intel_spi_boardinfo
> > that the PCI driver populates and then the "core" driver uses to enable
> > writing when "writeable" is set to 1.
> 
> If you are really worried about the write protection being bypassed by
> a different driver or code injection, the best way would seem to be to
> only enable writing in the mtd write callback and disable it immediately
> after the write is complete. I still don't see why this hardware would
> be more susceptible to this kind of attack than other drivers though,
> as it already has the safeguard against writing through the MTD layer
> without the module parameter.

Hmm, is there already a mechanism at the MTD level to prevent writes? If
that's the case then sure we can use that instead.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-04 13:58 [PATCH] mtd: spi-nor: intel-spi: Do not try to make the SPI flash chip writable Daniel Gutson
2020-08-04 14:08 ` Mika Westerberg
2020-08-04 15:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <CAFmMkTHEm8k+5GZkVJbDZMEhMwpsqVKRb-hGskSpBstdLRuFyA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-04 19:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-04 19:57       ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-04 20:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-04 21:26           ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-12 15:41             ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-13  9:01               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                 ` <CAFmMkTFgjW+9gNfx=2SU7B0foww=SLiiyVi+P-hZpEFDbMTf2Q@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-13 11:47                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-08-13 15:41             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-13 21:40               ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-16  8:41                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-18 15:55                   ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-19  6:57                     ` Mika Westerberg
2020-08-19  8:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-19  9:11                         ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2020-08-22 16:06                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-24  8:22                             ` Mika Westerberg
2020-08-24  9:08                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-24  9:15                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2020-08-24  9:31                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-24  9:44                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2020-08-24 16:00                                       ` Daniel Gutson
2020-08-19  9:19                         ` David Laight

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